fathom Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 With the way this season has started, it makes a Gonzalez trade even more unlikely. First, the Padres are peforming well. Second, AJP's struggles makes Flowers development even more important. Third, with our poor attendance prognosis, it makes Gonzalez's likely extension by the Sox more in doubt and highlights the need for younger talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) With the way this season has started, it makes a Gonzalez trade even more unlikely. First, the Padres are peforming well. Second, AJP's struggles makes Flowers development even more important. Third, with our poor attendance prognosis, it makes Gonzalez's likely extension by the Sox more in doubt and highlights the need for younger talent. Yup. It just doesn't make any sense, although it didn't make much sense going in to the season. Konerko's power surge and Andruw's second rebirth also don't help, but if Andruw starts to fall off like he did last year, I expect KW to add a lefty bat - just not a Prince Fielder/AGon type bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) Yup. It just doesn't make any sense, although it didn't make much sense going in to the season. Konerko's power surge and Andruw's second rebirth also don't help, but if Andruw starts to fall off like he did last year, I expect KW to add a lefty bat - just not a Prince Fielder/AGon type bat. A Kotsay type perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) A Kotsay type perhaps. hardyharhar maybe someone with a buyout next year, like Berkman or Hawpe. Not someone you'd have to sell the farm for, and then turn around and fail to sign them long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 04:43 PM) hardyharhar I love that you just typed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) AJP's struggles makes Flowers development even more important. AJ has been remarkably consistent and durable over the years. I don't think a bad half month means much as far as Pierzynski is concerned. I still hope the Sox trade Flowers while his value is relatively high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 You mean a catcher with a 1.0+ OPS in AAA? Cuz uh, i'd rather have that guy on my team. Why is everyone so sure that Flowers is going to fall off the face of the earth when he gets called up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Over his last 38 Games and 148 AB dating back to September 1st of last year AJ is hitting .196/.241/.216/.457 w/ 0 HR and 3 2B. (.020 ISO) Things change when you hit your mid 30's (this is AJ's age 33 season), horrible slumps are significantly more worrisome. There's what 4 games left in this month? Well, so far this is FAR AND AWAY the worst month of AJ's career. He's currently hitting .140/.197/.158/.355 (0 HR, 1 2B will account for that .018 ISO). He's only posted a sub .600 OPS in a month 6 times since becoming a full time starter in 2001 and he's never had a sub .500 let alone sub .400 OPS for a month of work. His previous worsts: May, 2001: .226/.238/.274/.512 Apr, 2004: .236/.267/.250/.517 Jul, 2002: .225/.257/.268/.524 Sep, 2004: .186/.255/.256/.511 Sep, 2008: .224/.258/.306/.564 Sep, 2009: .231/.268/.253/.521 So yeah, that .140/.197/.158/.355 takes on a whole new level of bad looking at those previous career lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 26, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) Over his last 38 Games and 148 AB dating back to September 1st of last year AJ is hitting .196/.241/.216/.457 w/ 0 HR and 3 2B. (.020 ISO) Things change when you hit your mid 30's (this is AJ's age 33 season), horrible slumps are significantly more worrisome. There's what 4 games left in this month? Well, so far this is FAR AND AWAY the worst month of AJ's career. He's currently hitting .140/.197/.158/.355 (0 HR, 1 2B will account for that .018 ISO). He's only posted a sub .600 OPS in a month 6 times since becoming a full time starter in 2001 and he's never had a sub .500 let alone sub .400 OPS for a month of work. His previous worsts: May, 2001: .226/.238/.274/.512 Apr, 2004: .236/.267/.250/.517 Jul, 2002: .225/.257/.268/.524 Sep, 2004: .186/.255/.256/.511 Sep, 2008: .224/.258/.306/.564 Sep, 2009: .231/.268/.253/.521 So yeah, that .140/.197/.158/.355 takes on a whole new level of bad looking at those previous career lows. Being a catcher worsens this situation too. It's entirely possible that AJ Pierzynski does not end the season as the White Sox starting catcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 We've got several guys who should be batting ninth and AJ is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 you guys are probably right (that getting agon isnt gonna happen) but that move would really just be perfect for rounding out this lineup. something like rios gordon agon paulie quentin jones teahan ramirez aj ok, i'll stop dreaming now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Tied for last place and 5 games out of first. Prediction: We will be in 2nd place by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 27, 2010 -> 08:35 AM) Tied for last place and 5 games out of first. Prediction: We will be in 2nd place by the end of the week. We're in last but also tied for 3rd at the same time. And 1.5 behind 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 According to Cowley, Coop didn't make the trip to Texas. What might this be about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 QUOTE (The Baconator @ Apr 27, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) According to Cowley, Coop didn't make the trip to Texas. What might this be about? Reifort reported this Scott Reifert #WhiteSox pitching coach Don Cooper will miss the team's series in Texas attending to a family matter. Juan Nieves serves as interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Taking a look at our schedule in May and especially June (even up until the all star break), this team will have it's chances to get back into the race. If they have any ability at all, they can make some hay in that timeframe. Edited April 27, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 There's a damn good chance John Ely gets the start tomorrow for the Dodgers at Citi Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 01:46 AM) There's a damn good chance John Ely gets the start tomorrow for the Dodgers at Citi Field. According to his facebook, he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I seriously feel bad for the Rangers fans. Thank you Kenny! Best trade ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So.... Gordon Beckham looks like s***. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 05:45 PM) So.... Gordon Beckham looks like s***. Discuss. Greg Walker sucks at his job. He does a terrible job of helping hitters adjust after the league adjusts to them. Beckham's swing, as well as his use of his legs in the swing, is terrible right now. He fouls off so many good pitches to hit to the right side. It's not just that his batting average is low, he's not hitting anything with authority. Edited April 28, 2010 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 12:58 PM) Greg Walker sucks at his job. Alex Rios and Mark Teahen say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) Alex Rios and Mark Teahen say hi. Hi what? Neither of them is exactly lighting it up this season. If Walker's going to point to those guys at his successful students, then he needs to be fired 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So I posted this yesterday: Alexei Ramirez is one of 2 players in baseball with at least 60 PA and no walks., the other is Pedro Feliz. So Alexei currently sports a 0:11 BB:K ratio. Pretty special if you ask me. Nothing has changed on that front but I have another fun fact: Juan Pierre is one of only two players in the game with at least 60 PA (Pierre has 84 PA) and no extra base hits, the other is Chris Coghlan. If Juan doesn't pick up an XBH sometime in the next 3 games it'll mark only the 3rd time in his career in which he's failed to pick up an XBH in a full month's worth of play. The other 2: April, 2002: .284/.371/.284/.655 (102 PA) Sept, 2000: .286/.339/.286/.625 (124 PA) April, 2010: .211/.268/.211/.479 (84 PA) Other players with only 1 XBH: Pierzynski (1 2B), Podsednik (1 2B), Borbon (1 3B), DeWitt (1 2B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 You mean he's not fast enough to hit a bunt double? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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