jphat007 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 CQ has had like 2 good games and 10 s***ty ones this year. That's not going to work from your 3 hole hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) If Ozzie is smart, he'd run with Beckham here to avoid the DP. Tough when hes swinging at the 1st pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dam CQ that is the last thing we Sox needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 And it worked to a T. Nice pitching that inning by the Indians. By the way, the Indians are the only team in the AL with a lower BA. Going into this game, we were batting .220 and they were batting .216. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 10:34 PM) CQ has had like 2 good games and 10 s***ty ones this year. That's not going to work from your 3 hole hitter. He's more of a 5 hole hitter now. He's not a good overall hitter. In an ideal world, Beckham would be the #3 hitter. But you know what, in the scheme of things, Quentin isn't going to make or break this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) Screw that, Quentin has to be smarter than that. STOP SWINGING AT THE FIRST PITCH! Our hitters continue to play right into the opposition's game plan. That's something Walker deserves criticism for. This is part of the reason why baseball just doesn't top football for me. In the NFL, if you blatantly didn't listen to your coach, you would get benched. Apparently, in the MLB, whatever coaches say are just suggestions that hitters don't have to listen to if they feel they know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) Tough when hes swinging at the 1st pitch Ya you can't blame Oz there. That was all on Quentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Fathom, How do we know that the gameplan isnt "Westbrook throws easy to hit pitches early in the count, we have to jump on him" That wasnt a great pitch, when do our hitters start to actually produce? All CQ has to do is hit the ball in the air, that should have been his #1 priority. The pitch location was down the middle and sinking, CQ has to do better than beating it into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 thanks for nothing CQ. Nothing like having a pitcher on the ropes and you swing at the first pitch only to chop in into the ground. No baseball IQ whatsoever by so many of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 At this rate though, if someone gets on, Ozzie has to make the adjustment. Run on the first pitch, since our hitters are impatient today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 10:35 PM) Fathom, How do we know that the gameplan isnt "Westbrook throws easy to hit pitches early in the count, we have to jump on him" That wasnt a great pitch, when do our hitters start to actually produce? All CQ has to do is hit the ball in the air, that should have been his #1 priority. The pitch location was down the middle and sinking, CQ has to do better than beating it into the ground. Westbrook pitched around Beckham to set up the double play. First pitch is a low and in sinker, and Quentin chased it. If that was our game plan to chase the low and in sinker, then Walker should be fired immediately. Westbrook isn't going to strike you out, so the game plan should be "make him get the pitch up in the zone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 One day Quentin will stop being such a f***ing moron and actually work the count every time he's up. I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 05:37 PM) Westbrook pitched around Beckham to set up the double play. First pitch is a low and in sinker, and Quentin chased it. If that was our game plan to chase the low and in sinker, then Walker should be fired immediately. Westbrook isn't going to strike you out, so the game plan should be "make him get the pitch up in the zone". Bingo. SOMEONE needs to take responsibility here. We can't just throw the blame around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) Westbrook pitched around Beckham to set up the double play. First pitch is a low and in sinker, and Quentin chased it. If that was our game plan to chase the low and in sinker, then Walker should be fired immediately. Westbrook isn't going to strike you out, so the game plan should be "make him get the pitch up in the zone". I learned in high school to take what is given to you and hit with what the situation is. 1 out, runners on the corners, I'm looking for something elevated to at least hit a fly ball. Not swing away like I have ADD or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Peavy has the "at 'em ball" working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 The sinker wasnt low and in, go back and watch the pitch. Its right down the middle and if CQ had the approach of trying to hit it in the air, would have easily done so. The pitch was easily hittable and should have been put in the air. It wasnt in the dirt or anything, it was slightly below CQ's knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 05:38 PM) Bingo. SOMEONE needs to take responsibility here. We can't just throw the blame around here. even walker cant be blamed 4 this mess of a lineup if you blame anyone its gotta be ozzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 that was a f***ing nasty pitch. Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 10:39 PM) The sinker wasnt low and in, go back and watch the pitch. Its right down the middle and if CQ had the approach of trying to hit it in the air, would have easily done so. The pitch was easily hittable and should have been put in the air. It wasnt in the dirt or anything, it was slightly below CQ's knees. Slightly below the knees from a sinker ball pitcher is going to result in a ground ball almost all the time, especially with someone like Quentin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 10:40 PM) that was a f***ing nasty pitch. Jesus Yes it was, about time he got that call. These announcers are begging to jinx our relievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Let go Sox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 The problem is that it was a below average pitch. There is a good chance that the next few pitches would have been better sinkers. CQ has to get the job done on a pitch like that, or at worst a pop up. There is just no explanation as to how he didnt get it in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (beckham15 @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) even walker cant be blamed 4 this mess of a lineup if you blame anyone its gotta be ozzie I'd love to hear the explanation of how rearranging the lineup would make guys not hit <.200.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) Westbrook pitched around Beckham to set up the double play. First pitch is a low and in sinker, and Quentin chased it. If that was our game plan to chase the low and in sinker, then Walker should be fired immediately. Westbrook isn't going to strike you out, so the game plan should be "make him get the pitch up in the zone". Did you play the game because you have all the answers. That pitch looked hittable then had good late movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 17, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) I'd love to hear the explanation of how rearranging the lineup would make guys not hit <.200.> Fairly certain he was commenting on the makeup of the lineup, not the arrangement of it. Ozzie got exactly what he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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