caulfield12 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 QUOTE (Special K @ May 8, 2010 -> 02:36 PM) Is anybody going to even mention the fact that Guillen made a terrible decision to let Buehrle pitch the 8th? What is the point of having a lockdown 8th inning guy like Thornton if you don't use him in those spots. I won't even suggest the idea that he use Santos either, because that would make no sense for a guy who hasn't given up a run all year. I suppose Randy Williams is the only pitcher who deserves to be out there with the game on the line. Guillen is such a joke at managing our pitchers that he costs us tons of close games. It's unfortunate that Guillen wanted close games with the NL Lineup he's been begging for as well. Yes, everyone in game thread mentioned it....as well as not using Thornton/Santos/Putz with a tie game as well. Not Bobby's specialty, those situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 8, 2010 -> 02:54 PM) Yes, everyone in game thread mentioned it....as well as not using Thornton/Santos/Putz with a tie game as well. Not Bobby's specialty, those situations. Well I guess I should pay more attention to the game threads then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Special K @ May 8, 2010 -> 04:10 PM) Well I guess I should pay more attention to the game threads then. You could check out Soxnet also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2010 -> 06:38 PM) You could check out Soxnet also. Shameless plug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Special K @ May 8, 2010 -> 02:36 PM) Is anybody going to even mention the fact that Guillen made a terrible decision to let Buehrle pitch the 8th? Yawn. He didn't give up the lead. It was a bold move to give Mark some confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 BTW, Ozzie hopes to get Omar Vizquel more ABs. Says he's doing a fantastic job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2010 -> 11:36 PM) BTW, Ozzie hopes to get Omar Vizquel more ABs. Says he's doing a fantastic job. I still don't understand what's stopping Kenny from DFA'ing Nix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 8, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) I still don't understand what's stopping Kenny from DFA'ing Nix. Probably the fact that Omar is 43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 8, 2010 -> 11:41 PM) Probably the fact that Omar is 43. Ok.... and Nix is getting no playing time, is taking up the spot that a pitcher would be better served to using, and Omar's age doesn't appear to be getting in the way of Ozzie playing him over Nix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 8, 2010 -> 10:11 PM) Yawn. He didn't give up the lead. It was a bold move to give Mark some confidence. Yawn... he did give up the lead. And I don't think a ten year veteran with a world series championship, perfect game, and no hitter underneath his belt needs to build confidence. Bad move leaving him in there. No excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We still will need someone to pick up the production from both CQ and Beckham if they keep struggling. I thought Ozzie was going to bench Beckham for a while but guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ May 8, 2010 -> 10:57 AM) Yea, I can agree with that. So I guess there is just no blame for anyone but the players. We were just destined to be terrible this year. Still, it's going to take awhile to fix. Atleast you aren't on the edge and you've fully jumped off the cliff. Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6522211.story Ozzie hasn't jumped off the cliff quite yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2010 -> 10:36 PM) BTW, Ozzie hopes to get Omar Vizquel more ABs. Says he's doing a fantastic job. Season: GP 10 · AVG .129 · HR 0 · RBI 2 · Runs 3 · SB 0 Looks like a leadoff hitter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 8, 2010 -> 10:11 PM) Yawn. He didn't give up the lead. It was a bold move to give Mark some confidence. He needs confidence????????? it was 3-2 then 3-3 the Sox did not lead anymore..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2010 -> 10:36 PM) BTW, Ozzie hopes to get Omar Vizquel more ABs. Says he's doing a fantastic job. Guillen really thinks the flippy hit thing is important to manufacturing runs than taking pitches and making pitchers work. I really want to punch the grindy originator in the head. per the trib "His job is not to hit .350, his job is to do what he's doing right now — play third base, play second base, play shortstop a little bit. Omar has been great. He is what he is, and it's not easy. Especially early, maybe a little later he'll play some more. He has been very professional, and I'm very excited about having him." .... So young guys who do not know the MLB just yet are expected to handle this but for Omar it is not "easy........ Edited May 9, 2010 by Jenks Heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 9, 2010 -> 08:42 AM) Guillen really thinks the flippy hit thing is important to manufacturing runs than taking pitches and making pitchers work. I really want to punch the grindy originator in the head. per the trib "His job is not to hit .350, his job is to do what he's doing right now — play third base, play second base, play shortstop a little bit. Omar has been great. He is what he is, and it's not easy. Especially early, maybe a little later he'll play some more. He has been very professional, and I'm very excited about having him." .... So young guys who do not know the MLB just yet are expected to handle this but for Omar it is not "easy........ Guillen says lots of things. Until he starts playing Vizquel more, I don't believe a word of it. Also, why NOT play Vizquel when he could easily be replacing someone who is playing s*** baseball too? At this point, what's the difference between him and half our team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 9, 2010 -> 10:40 AM) Guillen says lots of things. Until he starts playing Vizquel more, I don't believe a word of it. Also, why NOT play Vizquel when he could easily be replacing someone who is playing s*** baseball too? At this point, what's the difference between him and half our team? I don't think Ozzie is just saying that, I think he actually believes it. Edited May 9, 2010 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 9, 2010 -> 09:40 AM) Guillen says lots of things. Until he starts playing Vizquel more, I don't believe a word of it. Also, why NOT play Vizquel when he could easily be replacing someone who is playing s*** baseball too? At this point, what's the difference between him and half our team? Well of all the hitters in baseball with at least 30 PA Vizquel has the 7th lowest wOBA and is .063 points beneath our 2nd worst hitter (Mark Kotsay) oh and he's seeing 3.39 pit/pa which is well below average. In other words: for as bad as our everyday hitters have been at the plate Omar has been significantly worse. He's 4 for 31 with 1 XBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 The fact that Pierre still doesn't have an extra-base hit is abominable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (3E8 @ May 9, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) The fact that Pierre still doesn't have an extra-base hit is abominable At least he's not alone; Chris Coghlan's making him look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 9, 2010 -> 12:54 PM) At least he's not alone; Chris Coghlan's making him look good. Serves him right for stealing Tommy Hanson's ROY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Omar Vizquel is the starting DH for the Chicago White Sox today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 14, 2010 -> 04:07 PM) Omar Vizquel is the starting DH for the Chicago White Sox today. While not surprising, is this individual act alone a fireable offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 14, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) While not surprising, is this individual act alone a fireable offense? I'm inclinded to say it is. We're not dealing in a vacuum here either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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