Steve9347 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 BREAKING NEWS: Juan Pierre benched for tomorrow and has lost his leadoff spot when he returns to the lineup Saturday. Guillen will hit him 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 THANK GOD! Rios at leadoff now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 good, i hate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) THANK GOD! Rios at leadoff now? It'll be Kotsay or Vizquel is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I Hope we're going to see the Rios-Teahen connection at the top of the order, i doubt it I predict Beckham leads off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ozzie mentions Teahen, possibly Beckham as a new leadoff man, Pierre might bat 2nd but 9th for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm confident given the same number of ABs, Wise would have put up better numbers. He could at least hit it out of the infield for a potential sac fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 so... when did Rick Hahn start calling the shots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) I'm confident given the same number of ABs, Wise would have put up better numbers. He could at least hit it out of the infield for a potential sac fly. How quickly we forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) It'll be Kotsay or Vizquel is my guess. I assume you're kidding. If Ozzie did that, Williams should fire him before the first pitch is thrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Pierre is a good #2 guy. He hits it on the ground, will make contact in hit and run situations, can bunt and you won't waste an AB to someone who actually drives in runs, and not counting Wed. doesn't hit into DPs often so if they do get a force he is capable of stealing second. He's not nearly as bad as he's shown, but he shouldn't leadoff. Ninth is good for now, when he starts to hit, and he does get real hot in stretches move him to #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 With Pierre being a bust so far I have few things on my mind. With him not leading off which was clearly the reason why he was brought here in a first place, you have to ask yourself what does he bring to this ballclub? His defense is mediocre out there, no arm whatsoever. Question number 1: If Pierre is not batting leadoff would you want him out of the lineup and have Kotsay play LF and bat 9th? Kotsay, Rios, Jones, Q at DH, or you can rotate all these guys between these spots. Question number 2: With Sox still needing a big left handed bat, now that Pierre is failing do you see Sox trading for let's say Adam Dunn? He can play LF and brings the bat to the lineup. Conclusion if Pierre can't leadoff he is pretty much useless for this club and hurts you more than he helps. Prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) With Sox still needing a big left handed bat, now that Pierre is failing do you see Sox trading for let's say Adam Dunn? He can play LF Conclusion if Pierre can't leadoff he is pretty much useless for this club and hurts you more than he helps. Prove me wrong. Adam Dunn can't really play LF. You're absolutely correct about Pierre though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Most likely go Alexi/Beckham or Beckham/Alexi. I know Alexi isn't hitting worth a lick right now, but getting him in more fastball situations is perfect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Teahen should be leading off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) Pierre is a good #2 guy. He hits it on the ground, will make contact in hit and run situations, can bunt and you won't waste an AB to someone who actually drives in runs, and not counting Wed. doesn't hit into DPs often so if they do get a force he is capable of stealing second. He's not nearly as bad as he's shown, but he shouldn't leadoff. Ninth is good for now, when he starts to hit, and he does get real hot in stretches move him to #2. Actually, if Pierre hits nothing but groundballs, then I would be worried about him hitting into more doubleplays if he bats 2nd. Kinda defeats the purpose there. I think it might be best to bat him 9th, and if he gets on base, then that's just a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) I'm confident given the same number of ABs, Wise would have put up better numbers. He could at least hit it out of the infield for a potential sac fly. I would even prefer Carlos Zambrano in the 9th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 06:21 PM) Actually, if Pierre hits nothing but groundballs, then I would be worried about him hitting into more doubleplays if he bats 2nd. Kinda defeats the purpose there. I think it might be best to bat him 9th, and if he gets on base, then that's just a bonus. He hit into two last night. He's prone to those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) With Pierre being a bust so far I have few things on my mind. With him not leading off which was clearly the reason why he was brought here in a first place, you have to ask yourself what does he bring to this ballclub? His defense is mediocre out there, no arm whatsoever. Question number 1: If Pierre is not batting leadoff would you want him out of the lineup and have Kotsay play LF and bat 9th? Kotsay, Rios, Jones, Q at DH, or you can rotate all these guys between these spots. Question number 2: With Sox still needing a big left handed bat, now that Pierre is failing do you see Sox trading for let's say Adam Dunn? He can play LF and brings the bat to the lineup. Conclusion if Pierre can't leadoff he is pretty much useless for this club and hurts you more than he helps. Prove me wrong. If you acquire Adam Dunn you do it to rotate him at 1B/DH. He has no business whatsoever in LF. None. Zip. Hell f***ing no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 07:00 PM) He hit into two last night. He's prone to those. His career high in GIDP is 10. I wouldn't call that "prone". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 07:17 PM) His career high in GIDP is 10. I wouldn't call that "prone". He's already 2/5 of the way there this year. This says he's lost a lot of speed. With as many grounders as he hits, I wouldn't be surprised if he hits into 15 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) With Pierre being a bust so far I have few things on my mind. With him not leading off which was clearly the reason why he was brought here in a first place, you have to ask yourself what does he bring to this ballclub? His defense is mediocre out there, no arm whatsoever. Question number 1: If Pierre is not batting leadoff would you want him out of the lineup and have Kotsay play LF and bat 9th? Kotsay, Rios, Jones, Q at DH, or you can rotate all these guys between these spots. Question number 2: With Sox still needing a big left handed bat, now that Pierre is failing do you see Sox trading for let's say Adam Dunn? He can play LF and brings the bat to the lineup. Conclusion if Pierre can't leadoff he is pretty much useless for this club and hurts you more than he helps. Prove me wrong. Nobody can, because he is in fact useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 06:11 PM) Teahen should be leading off I wouldn't mind that. Decent speed, good eye and takes lots of pitches. Best candidate we have really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 07:38 PM) Nobody can, because he is in fact useless. For the sake of this team I hope he figures it out because if I don't see Ozzie/Kenny getting rid of him and he is signed for next year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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