kane0730 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:09 PM) I wonder how many times Alexei and Pierre get picked off tonight? They won't reach first, no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 We have what, 2 players that would even start for the Yankees (that being Rios and Konerko). Garcia's pitching, so it's likely the lineup won't even matter. Hopefully Beckham swings the bat well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Alexei and AJ are 2 players you never want in the top third of your lineup. They see very few pitches per AB, never walk, and are terrible situational hitters. (Yes I realize AJ is not in the top 3rd tonight. Just making a point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) Alexei and AJ are 2 players you never want in the top third of your lineup. They see very few pitches per AB, never walk, and are terrible situational hitters. (Yes I realize AJ is not in the top 3rd tonight. Just making a point.) AJ is not a bad #2 hitter when he's on. High contact rate (few K's), hits for good average, pulls the ball when its on the ground, knows the game situationally. Not so great with the bunting or speed though, or the walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:22 PM) AJ is not a bad #2 hitter when he's on. High contact rate (few K's), hits for good average, pulls the ball when its on the ground, knows the game situationally. Not so great with the bunting or speed though, or the walks. Too streaky for my tastes to be in that slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 not going to miss AJ reaching and whiffing on that nasty slider of Pettite's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Ok, seriously. Is our coaching staff trying to lose games, I'm being serious. The hell is wrong with Ozzie? THIS LINEUP DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:34 PM) Ok, seriously. Is our coaching staff trying to lose games, I'm being serious. The hell is wrong with Ozzie? THIS LINEUP DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! Ozzie is why we lead in SLPS. Edited April 30, 2010 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:05 PM) Ramirez SS (1:12 BB:SO) Beckham 2B Jones RF Konerko 1B Rios CF Quentin DH (LIES!) Teahen 3B Lucy C Pierre LF (LIES!) Garcia P Well, if the Sox pull out a win tonight with this lineup I suppose it'll boost confidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (hogan873 @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 08:35 PM) Well, if the Sox pull out a win tonight with this lineup I suppose it'll boost confidence? You sound like someone on the radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 12:10 PM) I'm starting to think Ozzie might be slightly mentally retarded. No offense to the handicapped. Camp Tardicaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgonzo4sox Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:34 PM) Ok, seriously. Is our coaching staff trying to lose games, I'm being serious. The hell is wrong with Ozzie? THIS LINEUP DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! It hardly changes anything at all. You have to look at it by taking into account the turnover of the line-up, from the 9-hole back to the top of the order. Alexei has usually been in the 9-hole, with Pierre leading off, followed by Beckham. So all this lineup does, after the first inning, is change Alexei-Pierre-Beckham to Pierre-Alexei-Beckham, with Alexei very likely getting one more at bat per game than Pierre because he's in the leadoff spot. Another option is giving Beckham the extra at bat per game, and putting both Alexei and Pierre at the bottom of the order. But Beckham also is struggling, and hardly deserves the extra at bat either. The real problems is that too many hitters are struggling: Alexei, Pierre, Beckham, Kotsay, Vizquel, AJ, Quentin. Ozzie doesn't have any good, obvious options for leadoff. He's got to hope that someone starts to figure out how to get on base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 There's a lot of hitters in tonight's lineup that have success against Pettitte. Pierre is 7-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:55 PM) There's a lot of hitters in tonight's lineup that have success against Pettitte. Pierre is 7-15. That probably explains Pierre being in there then. I'd be curious how the others in the lineup have done against him, versus the ones like AJ that are sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Page 5. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/presspass/gamenotes.jsp?c_id=mlb QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) That probably explains Pierre being in there then. I'd be curious how the others in the lineup have done against him, versus the ones like AJ that are sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:59 PM) Page 5. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/presspass/gamenotes.jsp?c_id=mlb That is awesome, is there one of those for every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Career vs Pettitte: Ramirez 1-2 w/ HR, BB Beckham 2-3 w/ 2B Jones 7-27 (.259) w/ 2 2B, BB, 7K Konerko 12-33 (.364) w/ HR, 2 2B, 3BB, 4K Rios 8-26 (.308) w/ 2B, HR, BB, 5K Quentin 1-5 W/ K Teahen 4-16 w/ 2 2B, 2K Lucy 0 PA Pierre 7-15 (.467) w/ 2 2B, BB, 2K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) Ozzie really doesn't get basic lineup construction. There's no logic to be found here. Edited April 30, 2010 by Thunderbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 04:06 PM) Career vs Pettitte: Ramirez 1-2 w/ HR, BB Beckham 2-3 w/ 2B Jones 7-27 (.259) w/ 2 2B, BB, 7K Konerko 12-33 (.364) w/ HR, 2 2B, 3BB, 4K Rios 8-26 (.308) w/ 2B, HR, BB, 5K Quentin 1-5 W/ K Teahen 4-16 w/ 2 2B, 2K Lucy 0 PA Pierre 7-15 (.467) w/ 2 2B, BB, 2K AJP 8-22 (.364), 1 2B, 1 K Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 01:04 PM) That is awesome, is there one of those for every game? yes, you can find them through the sox site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 02:15 PM) AJP 8-22 (.364), 1 2B, 1 K Interesting. Even more puzzling why he isn't in there. Maybe this will get Alexei to be more patient at the plate. He's improved his walk rate and overall discipline from when he got here to last year, but has regressed so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 04:17 PM) Even more puzzling why he isn't in there. Maybe this will get Alexei to be more patient at the plate. He's improved his walk rate and overall discipline from when he got here to last year, but has regressed so far this season. I was actually fine with Lucy getting the start before I looked at those splits. Pettitte is a tough lefty, AJ is slumping and Lucy is RH and swinging a decent bat right now. However, I had no idea AJP has actually had sustained success against him. Of course with tomorrow being a day game maybe Oz just felt he'd rather play AJ vs Vazquez rather than Pettitte Edited April 30, 2010 by ChiSox_Sonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's nice to have a high OPB-man in the lead-off spot. Never a bad thing to have someone who can take a walk... ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 07:58 AM) I actually don't mind Kay or Singleton at all. It's Leiter and O'Neill that make it almost unbearable. It's clear they do zero homework before visiting teams not named Boston play the Yankee$ and they are totally useless IMO. And they've become much better since Susan Waldman has taken a lesser role. Anything that Susan Waldman takes a lesser role instantly becomes better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Lucy's been Garcia's catcher - hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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