Buehrlesque Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Today it looked like a few balls ate him up, and he made some bad decisions on others, especially the run-scoring ground out by Jeter. In general he has looked relatively uncomfortable there so far this season- tentative on charging balls, playing in between hops, double clutching on throws to first. (I will say he has looked better than I expected on fielding bunts.) Do you think his glove is good enough to play at 3B all year? He'll never be a gold glover, obviously, but can he get by? Or, with a so so bat and so so to below average glove, will he eventually need to be moved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 I still think he's average out there. No Joe Crede in his prime but no hack either. He's not having a good series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Teahen doesn't look comfortable at third. His footwork is really bad, and he seems slow in his decision-making. I'm not comfortable with him being the 3rd baseman for the next three seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 He's been pretty bad so far. But if there's anything positive, it's that he rarely makes errors on throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Teahan looks to be a below average (not horrible) 3rd baseman defensively. If he can hit the way the Sox seem to think he can, he'll be alright as the Sox starting 3rd baseman. If he hits to his career averages, he will be a liability as the starting 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted May 1, 2010 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 1, 2010 -> 05:56 PM) Teahan looks to be a below average (not horrible) 3rd baseman defensively. If he can hit the way the Sox seem to think he can, he'll be alright as the Sox starting 3rd baseman. If he hits to his career averages, he will be a liability as the starting 3B. I guess maybe I could/should have made this a poll: A. His glove is fine. B. Teahen's bat carries his so-so glove. C. Neither his bat nor his glove is good enough. He has to be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshiner Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Teahen is fine. I think we've been a little spoiled with quality fielders at 3b the last 20 years. He's no Ventura or Crede but I think he's better than Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 He seems a little too stiff at 3rd base, he always seems to be standing straight as a board in every defensive move he makes. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) Teahen doesn't look comfortable at third. His footwork is really bad, and he seems slow in his decision-making. I'm not comfortable with him being the 3rd baseman for the next three seasons. In fairness, he doesn't look comfortable doing much of anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 1, 2010 -> 06:44 PM) In fairness, he doesn't look comfortable doing much of anything... What can you say? He's just an awkward fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I'm sick of seeing balls playing to the side when it's not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 We're lucky to have Teahen at 3B. End of thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Why are we lucky to have Teahen at third? He ain't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 According to +/-, Teahen has been the 32nd best 3B this season. I do not believe there is a minimum games played requirement yet, so there has to be quite a few "eligible" players. Bill's site will not show them in list form past the top ten; but for what it's worth everyone I checked on ranked higher than 32nd. To my eye he has been terrible, and according to +/- he is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 yeah he's pretty bad. And yeah, he double clutches a lot. But the good thing is we signed him long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxt Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (GREEDY @ May 2, 2010 -> 12:52 PM) According to +/-, Teahen has been the 32nd best 3B this season. I do not believe there is a minimum games played requirement yet, so there has to be quite a few "eligible" players. Bill's site will not show them in list form past the top ten; but for what it's worth everyone I checked on ranked higher than 32nd. To my eye he has been terrible, and according to +/- he is the worst. He has been bad. He makes Gordon B look like Brooks Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) If we ever have to move Teahan to LF down the line, I wonder if we can get by like that. Sure, that's a weak bat to have in LF, but depending on the roster it might be passable. Between him and Rios, respectively at LF and CF, we could be getting some 37 HR yearly combined from those two positions. Maybe. I suppose his versatility is a reason for the contract. And our extreme need for LH bats Edited May 2, 2010 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Based on UZR... Of the 24 players that had at least 800 innings at 3b last year Beckham (1st year) was ranked 14 and Teahen was ranked 21 (5th year) This year based on at least 150 innings played hes ranked 29/30 at 3b ... just ahead of Jhonny Peralta. The top players KW could have signed: So far... Adrian Beltre (9M/1, 5M option) is ranked 6th Miguel Tejada (6M/1) is ranked 7th Teahen currently has a 12.5M/3 contract (2.25M this year) saving around 4M (~66%) compared to Tejada. Simply put, you get what you paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (GREEDY @ May 2, 2010 -> 07:52 AM) According to +/-, Teahen has been the 32nd best 3B this season. I do not believe there is a minimum games played requirement yet, so there has to be quite a few "eligible" players. Bill's site will not show them in list form past the top ten; but for what it's worth everyone I checked on ranked higher than 32nd. To my eye he has been terrible, and according to +/- he is the worst. I guess he's been even worse than I thought defensively. And I thought he was below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 He's been brutal so far, but I'm hopeful we'll see some improvement as I don't want to make judgments based on one month of baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ May 2, 2010 -> 09:38 AM) If we ever have to move Teahan to LF down the line, I wonder if we can get by like that. Sure, that's a weak bat to have in LF, but depending on the roster it might be passable. Between him and Rios, respectively at LF and CF, we could be getting some 37 HR yearly combined from those two positions. Maybe. I suppose his versatility is a reason for the contract. And our extreme need for LH bats This team wouldn't know anything about weak bats in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (GREEDY @ May 2, 2010 -> 07:52 AM) According to +/-, Teahen has been the 32nd best 3B this season. I do not believe there is a minimum games played requirement yet, so there has to be quite a few "eligible" players. Bill's site will not show them in list form past the top ten; but for what it's worth everyone I checked on ranked higher than 32nd. To my eye he has been terrible, and according to +/- he is the worst. The problem with using defensive metrics at this point in the season is that the sample size is not large enough. This tells you nothing about Teahen's skills as a defender. UZR and +/- need far larger sample sizes to truly measure a player's defensive ability. Both have large fluctuations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ May 2, 2010 -> 09:44 AM) Based on UZR... Of the 24 players that had at least 800 innings at 3b last year Beckham (1st year) was ranked 14 and Teahen was ranked 21 (5th year) This year based on at least 150 innings played hes ranked 29/30 at 3b ... just ahead of Jhonny Peralta. The top players KW could have signed: So far... Adrian Beltre (9M/1, 5M option) is ranked 6th Miguel Tejada (6M/1) is ranked 7th Teahen currently has a 12.5M/3 contract (2.25M this year) saving around 4M (~66%) compared to Tejada. Simply put, you get what you paid for. Once again, UZR after one month isn't exactly a valid measuring stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 2, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) The problem with using defensive metrics at this point in the season is that the sample size is not large enough. This tells you nothing about Teahen's skills as a defender. UZR and +/- need far larger sample sizes to truly measure a player's defensive ability. Both have large fluctuations. Yup. Teahen's UZR, +/- could look radically different a couple weeks from now. I like the new defensive metrics. But a lot of people have no idea how to utilize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Do the Sox sometimes overvalue guys who do well against the Sox? Wasn't Teahen a Sox killer? Did that get KW and Oz salivating? He's nothing too special IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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