caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/05/disc...e-mariners.html Just substitute White Sox pathetic offense for M's. (MINUS FIRED hitting coach, former UT QB Alan Cockrell). Feels like we're in the offseason again looking for Thome's replacement with this list. Deja vu. Any names even worth debating? I guess the O's would make sense (for a lot of teams) as a trade partner, but probably not the Indians and Royals. Then again, we love our trades with KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 (edited) As much as I expected this team to suck, I find it pretty mind boggling that there is a very real chance we'll leave Target Field on May 12th 10 games out of first. I never thought I'd see the day where mid-May wouldn't be too early to start the fire sale/major trading of veterans talk, but that will be the case if things go poorly in the next couple of days. Edited May 10, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I know Freddy has a track record vs. Minnesota, but I really wish they would skip him tomorrow. With two days off this week, this is a perfect opportunity to manipulate the pitching rotation to favor us...We could even skip him twice this week if need-be. He is 1-7 in his last 8 starts vs. KC as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Yes, they should skip Freddy. I thought the whole point of skipping him last time was top set the rotation for Danks and Buehrle to face the Twins. They should do that, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 But, the Twins historically murder Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Historically--Buehrle is 24-16 against the Twins, and he's beaten them this year already...and he's coming off a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I wouldn't say they "murder" him. He's very hit or miss against the Twins, either he's great or horrible. Dating back to 2006 he's had 9 good outings and 8 bad outings against he Twins. When he was good he was very good (typically early in the year) and when he was bad he was real bad (typically later in the year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 10, 2010 -> 01:56 PM) I wouldn't say they "murder" him. He's very hit or miss against the Twins, either he's great or horrible. Dating back to 2006 he's had 9 good outings and 8 bad outings against he Twins. When he was good he was very good (typically early in the year) and when he was bad he was real bad (typically later in the year). I recall, I think it was 2006 or 2007, MB gave up something like 7 runs in the first inning - stayed in the game - and beat the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2010 -> 07:54 AM) Man, what a screwed up schedule we have the next couple weeks. Offday 2 @ Minn Offday Stretch of 16 games in a row, starting with: 3 @ KC 2 @ Detroit 2 home vs. LAA Interleague series home vs. FLA 7 game road trip through Cleveland and Tampa How often do you see a 5 game home stand? I don't get why Wednesday's game is a 12:00 start. Both teams have off on Thursday and are then traveling to Kansas City or New York, so its not like they need the extra time for travel purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 10, 2010 -> 01:59 PM) I recall, I think it was 2006 or 2007, MB gave up something like 7 runs in the first inning - stayed in the game - and beat the Twins. Didn't we complete a triple play in that game too??? I remember that game being ESPN Sunday Night Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 10, 2010 -> 02:56 PM) I wouldn't say they "murder" him. He's very hit or miss against the Twins, either he's great or horrible. Dating back to 2006 he's had 9 good outings and 8 bad outings against he Twins. When he was good he was very good (typically early in the year) and when he was bad he was real bad (typically later in the year). Actually, I knew that he gets hit hard by them sometimes, but I went over the top because I couldn't find his career stats and I knew that by posting like that, that you'd find me the stats in order to correct me. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 ^^lazy ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ May 10, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) But, the Twins historically murder Buehrle. D1 typically gets murdered by Mauer and Morneau as well. 5.13 ERA, 1.52 WHIP against the Twins career, nearly identical 5.17 ERA against them last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 10, 2010 -> 01:59 PM) I recall, I think it was 2006 or 2007, MB gave up something like 7 runs in the first inning - stayed in the game - and beat the Twins. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 10, 2010 -> 02:01 PM) Didn't we complete a triple play in that game too??? I remember that game being ESPN Sunday Night Baseball. Great memories. May 14, 2006. Dye hit a 3-run homer in the 1st, Twins put up 7 runs (6 unearned runs) in the first. Sox put up 1 in the 3rd (Thome homer), 5 in the 4th (AJP homer plus a few other things), and turned a triple play in the bottom of the 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 10, 2010 -> 08:01 PM) Didn't we complete a triple play in that game too??? I remember that game being ESPN Sunday Night Baseball. Yep, it was the day after I got engaged. I was happy that my engagement didn't curse the franchise for good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I know this team is f***ing horrible, but I still miss White Sox baseball today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Alex Rios is fifth in all of baseball in WAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 11, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) Alex Rios is fifth in all of baseball in WAR. Well when you consider the question what is it good for (absolutely nothing), I can't take such a fact seriously. He's still having a great season so far though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 11, 2010 -> 02:12 PM) Well when you consider the question what is it good for (absolutely nothing), I can't take such a fact seriously. He's still having a great season so far though. Okay, Jackie Chan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2010 -> 07:54 AM) Man, what a screwed up schedule we have the next couple weeks. Offday 2 @ Minn Offday Stretch of 16 games in a row, starting with: 3 @ KC 2 @ Detroit 2 home vs. LAA Interleague series home vs. FLA 7 game road trip through Cleveland and Tampa How often do you see a 5 game home stand? The Cardinals have a 3 game home stand followed by a 3 game road trip this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 11, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) Well when you consider the question what is it good for (absolutely nothing), I can't take such a fact seriously. He's still having a great season so far though. That joke is starting to get old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ May 11, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) That joke is starting to get old. What is WAR by the way? Wins about replacement? And how do you measure that? Edited May 11, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 11, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) What is WAR by the way? Wins about replacement? And how do you measure that? Yup. You calculate it by taking a batter's weighted on base average (wOBA) and converting it to runs produced on offense. Then you take UZR and convert it into runs saved on defense. Add them together, add the replacement level production, add a position adjustment value, and you have your runs above replacement. Every 10 runs = 1 win share. Rios has a 1.8 WAR right now, meaning he has produced/saved 18 runs above replacement level production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan22 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Apparently the sox signed Alan Embree to a minor league deal this morning. Probably just a little extra lefty insurance just in case, especially after looking at his numbers last year, but either way it doesn't hurt having him around just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 QUOTE (soxfan22 @ May 12, 2010 -> 09:06 AM) Apparently the sox signed Alan Embree to a minor league deal this morning. Probably just a little extra lefty insurance just in case, especially after looking at his numbers last year, but either way it doesn't hurt having him around just in case. Happened a few days ago, there is a thread in PHT discussing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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