HuskyCaucasian Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) Turns out the no privileges thing about LeBron's friends isn't true. What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 01:29 PM) I'm thinking Wade/Boozer will be the result of this whole thing, guys. I am 100% ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 02:29 PM) I'm thinking Wade/Boozer will be the result of this whole thing, guys. I think this is looking like the realistic option at this point. We need Bosh to be signed and traded to Houston which really shuts the door on Wade to Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) Get real Toronto. Take Deng & a draft pick and be happy that Bosh wants a S&T. If they can't deal Hedo though, they have no need for Deng and his contract. They desperately need a C on that team so they can move Bargnani to PF, hence the interest in Noah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 01:39 PM) I am 100% ok with that. Yup, same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 IraHeatBeat Micky Arison hands over Carnival Corp. to Dwyane Wade. Nah, but the two do talk and that is a positive step for Heat. http://bit.ly/9BZN2B hopefully it's a hey it's been fun working for ya but im chi town bound now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Chad Ford: "Understated: Cavs can't offer 'Bron $30M more if he only signs a 3 yr deal. Only $1M more than other teams." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:59 PM) Chad Ford: "Understated: Cavs can't offer 'Bron $30M more if he only signs a 3 yr deal. Only $1M more than other teams." what about a 6 yr deal with a player option for the 4th, 5th, and 6th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 If you can get Bosh, do you trade Noah to Raptors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) If you can get Bosh, do you trade Noah to Raptors? Yes, as long as it means we are getting both Wade and LeBron, or one of them and another top FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Yes, as long as it means we are getting both Wade and LeBron, or one of them and another top FA. Yah, I think if Noah is the obstruction to obtaining Bosh+Wade or Bosh+Lebron you gotta trade him. Maybe you can get the Raptors to take Noah+Deng and then you can go out and get another few guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) Yah, I think if Noah is the obstruction to obtaining Bosh+Wade or Bosh+Lebron you gotta trade him. Maybe you can get the Raptors to take Noah+Deng and then you can go out and get another few guys. It's a thin line though. Bosh is a better player then Noah, but if you trade one for the other without a guarantee of Lebron or Wade, you're in a tough spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) It's a thin line though. Bosh is a better player then Noah, but if you trade one for the other without a guarantee of Lebron or Wade, you're in a tough spot. If at the end of the day Bosh > Noah then even if the other guys don't come, your team is better than it was before the trade. I think I still do it. Rose + Bosh > Rose + Noah. Maybe next year we could make a run at Melo etc. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) If you can get Bosh, do you trade Noah to Raptors? If all it took was Noah AND we were getting one of Lebron/Wade, then yes. Then you're probably looking at dealing Deng for some depth. The deal with POR makes sense with Przybilla and Bayless if its Bosh and Lebron. Rose/Bayless/Lebron/Bosh/Przybilla Or the Deng for Okur deal and then go out and sign a SG and end up with Rose/FA/Lebron/Bosh/Okur. If it's Wade/Bosh, you're looking at probably starting Asik, which I probably wouldn't have a problem with: Rose/Wade/Deng/Bosh/Asik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) If you can get Bosh, do you trade Noah to Raptors? Toronto's bluffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I had a feeling that Noah/Bosh may be a sticking point and the Bulls would have to make a choice about how far they want to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) Toronto's bluffing. I am not sure that I agree. What does Toronto have to gain by accepting Luol Deng and his horrible contract? They might be better off just saving the cap space. It is f***ed up but Luol Deng + his contract might not be as valuable as just cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 11:29 AM) I'm thinking Wade/Boozer will be the result of this whole thing, guys. I think we are getting Boozer. The question is who does the rest of our cap money go to, do we save it or sign random 1 year fits, or do we get LBJ or Wade? I'm really curious to see what will happen. I think there is a good shot we strike out, but I am happy with the way the Bulls have handled this. We are the FA front runners for both LBJ and Wade (and when I say front-runners, I mean, of all the teams chasing these guys...not referring to the Heat and Cavs who clearly are still the frontrunners). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) The more I think about it... the more I believe that Lebron will stay in Cleveland... And if the only way Bosh is willing to come is via sign and trade (per recent articles that also suggest it would cost us Noah)... I'm beginning to think it may not be a bad idea to make a pre-emptive strike (at the right price) for Boozer... and use the signing as further proof to Wade of our willingness to: - Bring him in as 'the guy' - Surround him with a better cast than Miami can deliver... even if they add Bosh The thing I like about Boozer is we don't have to trade anyone for him and he's a pretty good 3rd piece next to Wade/Rose or LBJ/Rose. On top of it, it allows Wade or LBJ to be the true #1 and have his team. And can you imagine Boozer playing alongisde Taj/Noah. Those are two good defensive guys to have around him, plus Asik who, like Noah, projects much more as a defensive center (something Boozer can't be). I really like that roster. Than the Bulls either move Deng for a 2 guard (if we get LBJ) or keep him (if we get Wade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) If you can get Bosh, do you trade Noah to Raptors? If it means that we'll be getting LBJ as well, then yes. You don't trade the heart of this team unless it's gonna win you multiple championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 jgoff670 Wade is holding the Bulls over MIA's head so S&T with Bosh can be pulled off. Beasley and Chalmers not playing in summer league games BTW. 23 minutes ago via web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Boozer and Lee would be a travesty and it would piss me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) jgoff670 Wade is holding the Bulls over MIA's head so S&T with Bosh can be pulled off. Beasley and Chalmers not playing in summer league games BTW. 23 minutes ago via web If there was going to be a S&T with the Heat you would think it would have gone down already. Miami doesn't have much that the Raptors would want. I know it's better to get something for Bosh then let him leave for nothing, but, it still seems like Miami doesn't have the pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (Mr. Showtime @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) If there was going to be a S&T with the Heat you would think it would have gone down already. Miami doesn't have much that the Raptors would want. I know it's better to get something for Bosh then let him leave for nothing, but, it still seems like Miami doesn't have the pieces. I think it has more to with Colangelo wanting more than Beasley. He's trying to play the "we have all the leverage" card and its not really working. All the reports say they want Noah if its Chicago but the Bulls won't budge. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) I am not sure that I agree. What does Toronto have to gain by accepting Luol Deng and his horrible contract? They might be better off just saving the cap space. It is f***ed up but Luol Deng + his contract might not be as valuable as just cap space. If Toronto takes too long, they get nothing. People think Bosh can't live without the extra $30 million, what's that supposed to mean? Sprewell can't feed his kids, now Chris Bosh can't either? Bosh will find himself another contract later on, he doesn't need the extra $30 million, he would like to have it, but if Toronto's being too picky, Bosh might just say screw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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