NBA Offseason Thread

[Quin]

So what does next year's free agent class look like?

 

Melo, who has an empire state of mind and extending Noah.

[Jenksismyhero]

I still think that if you add Boozer and a shooter like Allen, the Bulls could easily contend next year (assuming Lebron goes anywhere but Miami).

[bmags]

do you guys realize how much money the bulls made in season ticket sales?

[HuskyCaucasian]

It's a good think I'm moving to Florida in a few years. I'll be able to watch a championship NBA team.

[SoxFan562004]

Well if you use a bunch of money to sign Boozer or Lee, you're stuck firmly in the NBA mediocre 5-8 seed range in the east position. I agree the Bulls had no choice but to blow it up and hope for a marquee guy, and you're also right that you can't compound your failures with the big 3 by forcing a bad signing.

they had do to it, if they fail and LBJ goes back to Cle or to Mia then you just sit back and ride it out and suck, can't force it in the NBA, it's a boom or bust league.

Edited July 7, 2010 by SoxFan562004

[whitesoxfan101]

You can defend the Bulls handling of this all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that they failed miserably, and now have to figure out a way to become relevant even though there really aren't many options out there to fix this mess.

[Palehosefan]

I still think that if you add Boozer and a shooter like Allen, the Bulls could easily contend next year (assuming Lebron goes anywhere but Miami).

 

I don't think there's any doubt, especially if Asik is joining the Bulls. Noah and Asik will provide fantastic defense in the post, and Boozer would be a great rebounder and solid scorer. Bulls would be able to compete with anyone in the East in my eyes.

 

Rose

Allen

Deng

Boozer

Noah

 

 

That's nasty.

Edited July 7, 2010 by Palehosefan

[whitesoxfan101]

I still think that if you add Boozer and a shooter like Allen, the Bulls could easily contend next year (assuming Lebron goes anywhere but Miami).

 

That's not beating Miami, Boston, or Cleveland if Lebron stays there, and that's just in the east. This is why me and soxfan keep saying not to sign Boozer, you'll just be a 4 seed with little wiggle room under the cap to improve. Keep in mind that Rose and Noah are going to get PAID soon too, which takes up a lot more cap space than those two do now.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[DrunkBomber]

It's the fault of nobody but the Bulls if Wade hustled them. Shame on the Bulls for buying it.

So you think they should have denied Wade the opportunity to talk with the team assuming he was a spy? The guy was going around in the media basically saying being near his kids could be a deciding factor in his decision. Seems very legit to me. Whats funny is I can imagine how outraged you would be if the Bulls snubbed hometown hero Dwayne Wade when he just wanted to play close to his family in Chicago.. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess but Ill bet almost all of us were giddy with the idea of Wade coming to Chicago. As far as suspecting it? Who knows, we dont know what was said or what information they made him privy to. I doubt they laid out the blueprint to success they were planning with him and asked for his opinions. Wade is just a shady guy I guess. People can guess where LeBron will go all day and I know it looks bad, but barring him going to Miami, Chicago is his only chance to be part of a dynasty to have the potential to get him multiple rings being "the man" and we know the ego this guy has.

[DBAHO]

I'm surprised that people on here actually thought Wade to the Bulls was a distinct possibility.

 

Everything leading up to FA lead to the fact out of all of the superstars, Wade was the one most likely to re-sign with his own team. And now people on here are going to turn on him just like they did when he criticised the Bulls about the way they handled past players etc.

 

Once Wade stays in Miami, if you're Bosh, of course you are going to go to Miami for numerous reasons over Chicago. Maybe Chicago should have done more to try and have signed Amare?

[Chicago White Sox]

Well if you use a bunch of money to sign Boozer or Lee, you're stuck firmly in the NBA mediocre 5-8 seed range in the east position. I agree the Bulls had no choice but to blow it up and hope for a marquee guy, and you're also right that you can't compound your failures with the big 3 by forcing a bad signing.

So what are you proposing then? At some point we'll need to lock up Rose and Noah. The key to this entire offseason was having cap space available to sign a couple marquee free agents before we have to give out any extensions. We might have another offseason where this is possible, but at some point in the near future this cap space will be gone. Personally, I don't see any problem in overpaying for Boozer or Lee. We desperately need a offensive-minded PF and I don't see what other options we have.

[MurcieOne]

@chrisbosh What's all the fuss about this morning? I woke up to a ton of emails, texts and missed calls.

 

Funny asshole

[whitesoxfan101]

I'm surprised that people on here actually thought Wade to the Bulls was a distinct possibility.

 

Everything leading up to FA lead to the fact out of all of the superstars, Wade was the one most likely to re-sign with his own team. And now people on here are going to turn on him just like they did when he criticised the Bulls about the way they handled past players etc.

 

Once Wade stays in Miami, if you're Bosh, of course you are going to go to Miami for numerous reasons over Chicago. Maybe Chicago should have done more to try and have signed Amare?

 

No way they should have, not with his health. And even beyond his health, we'll see how he does without Nash. That might have been even dumber than overpaying for Boozer would be, but the Knicks were willing to do it to avoid coming up empty and make Carmelo even more interested in going there. That contract won't look good the last couple years of it though.

[DBAHO]

No way they should have, not with his health. And even beyond his health, we'll see how he does without Nash. That might have been even dumber than overpaying for Boozer would be, but the Knicks were willing to do it to avoid coming up empty and make Carmelo even more interested in going there. That contract won't look good the last couple years of it though.

Amare's better than Boozer.

 

Signing Boozer is a bit of fools gold. At least Amare can be a real difference maker, and he'd still be playing with a great PG in Chicago with Rose if he had that opportunity. Boozer would just give you some doubles - doubles, and be terrible defensively.

 

Amare's only in his late 20's also, so it's not like giving someone such as Ray Allen a 3 or 4 year deal for instance.

[chw42]

Funny asshole

 

Now you know why yesterday was A GREAT DAY for Chris Bosh.

[SoxFan562004]

So what are you proposing then? At some point we'll need to lock up Rose and Noah. The key to this entire offseason was having cap space available to sign a couple marquee free agents before we have to give out any extensions. We might have another offseason where this is possible, but at some point in the near future this cap space will be gone. Personally, I don't see any problem in overpaying for Boozer or Lee. We desperately need a offensive-minded PF and I don't see what other options we have.

their best bet is to be a suck-fest this year and try and get a top 5 pick... ugly option, but in the NBA it's the way it has to go sometimes.

[Quin]

So you think they should have denied Wade the opportunity to talk with the team assuming he was a spy? The guy was going around in the media basically saying being near his kids could be a deciding factor in his decision. Seems very legit to me. Whats funny is I can imagine how outraged you would be if the Bulls snubbed hometown hero Dwayne Wade when he just wanted to play close to his family in Chicago.. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess but Ill bet almost all of us were giddy with the idea of Wade coming to Chicago. As far as suspecting it? Who knows, we dont know what was said or what information they made him privy to. I doubt they laid out the blueprint to success they were planning with him and asked for his opinions. Wade is just a shady guy I guess. People can guess where LeBron will go all day and I know it looks bad, but barring him going to Miami, Chicago is his only chance to be part of a dynasty to have the potential to get him multiple rings being "the man" and we know the ego this guy has.

 

Exactly.

[chw42]

Amare's better than Boozer.

 

Signing Boozer is a bit of fools gold. At least Amare can be a real difference maker, and he'd still be playing with a great PG in Chicago with Rose if he had that opportunity. Boozer would just give you some doubles - doubles, and be terrible defensively.

 

Amare's only in his late 20's also, so it's not like giving someone such as Ray Allen a 3 or 4 year deal for instance.

 

Amare's not good at defense himself.

[whitesoxfan101]

their best bet is to be a suck-fest this year and try and get a top 5 pick... ugly option, but in the NBA it's the way it has to go sometimes.

 

Bingo. This is the next best option now that you couldn't figure out a way to acquire any of the big three.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[DBAHO]

Amare's not good at defense himself.

No, but he offers a lot more on the offensive end than Boozer does.

 

And at least Amare is bigger also, which in Thibodeau's defensive system would be a big advantage.

[whitesoxfan101]

Amare's better than Boozer.

 

Signing Boozer is a bit of fools gold. At least Amare can be a real difference maker, and he'd still be playing with a great PG in Chicago with Rose if he had that opportunity. Boozer would just give you some doubles - doubles, and be terrible defensively.

 

Amare's only in his late 20's also, so it's not like giving someone such as Ray Allen a 3 or 4 year deal for instance.

 

Amar'e's knees aren't going to last. I agree that Boozer is fools good and Amar'e would have been good with Rose, but he's still a major health risk that doesn't defend (he did a little last year, but he'll go back to not even pretending to care about it now that he got paid) and doesn't rebound as much as he should.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[scenario]

Bosh and Wade are not enough for the Heat to win a championship.

They'll need more weapons than just those two.

 

[whitesoxfan101]

Bosh and Wade are not enough for the Heat to win a championship.

They'll need more weapons than just those two.

 

I agree, but Pat Riley will figure out a way to acquire them. Playing with Bosh and Wade and in an organization with Pat Riley is a great opportunity.

[SoxFan562004]

Bosh and Wade are not enough for the Heat to win a championship.

They'll need more weapons than just those two.

they could likely get LBJ, but I do agree with you, if LBJ stays in Cle the Heat are a mild threat in the east with those two and that's about it.

Edited July 7, 2010 by SoxFan562004

[chw42]

Bosh and Wade are not enough for the Heat to win a championship.

They'll need more weapons than just those two.

 

If they get Haywood and some nice bench pieces, I think they'll have a more than legit shot.