NBA Offseason Thread

[RockRaines]

Why would Ray Allen leave the Celtics, the team he's won a championship with and feels confortable with, to come to the Bulls? To play with Carlos Boozer, and Luol Deng? And do you really think that this team would compete with Cleveland, Miami or Boston? I don't think so.

Yes, because the Celts have just run over the Bulls the last few seasons. The Bulls didnt even belong on the same floor as them.....

[RockRaines]

So it's not the Bulls fault they came up empty here? I mean, yeah we're venting our frusterations, and I agree that you can't make anybody come here. But the Bulls are going absolutely nowhere anytime soon now, and regardless of how good of a shot they gave it, this has been a completely failure. And just sitting there and saying oh well isn't good enough.

How did they fail then? Did they make a mistake? Did they not trade to get max contracts? Everyone who loses here is a complete failure? The Heat and the Cavs if Bron goes there are the only front offices than deserve to keep their jobs?

[chetkincaid]

Thibbs hasnt even coached ONE game and you want him fired. Hilarious.

 

Screw "Thibbs", John Paxson, and Gar Forman. What happened to getting an experienced NBA head coach? This is doing to be VDN all over again. Was Byron Scott even interviewed?

[Steve9347]

But I'd be a little worried at Boozer's numbers this season in a contract year also. Last season he really struggled, and so many people in Utah wanted him out, albeit he only played 37 games.

Last year he played 78 games.

 

The dude is a legit low post scorer who unfortunately plays no defense, but next to Noah would be decent. We were all aiming high, but signing a 29 year old, 6-10 guy who put up 20/11 on 56% shooting wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

 

Those age 33/34 seasons would probably be rough, though.

[whitesoxfan101]

How did they fail then? Did they make a mistake? Did they not trade to get max contracts? Everyone who loses here is a complete failure? The Heat and the Cavs if Bron goes there are the only front offices than deserve to keep their jobs?

 

First point, front office. Paxson should have been fired years ago, and Gar Forman isn't qualified for his job. That is a bigger reason they should be fired than this failure, pulling a rabbit out of their hat and getting one of the big guys would have been a job saving move more than anything. And how did they fail? They didn't get anybody. You can do everything in preparation you want, but if doesn't work, you failed. Pretty simple concept.

[SoxFan562004]

Screw "Thibbs", John Paxson, and Gar Forman. What happened to getting an experienced NBA head coach? This is doing to be VDN all over again. Was Byron Scott even interviewed?

who knows how he'll work out, but he has been a respected assistant for years and years and had at least one other team ready to make him an offer this year to be a coach.

[chetkincaid]

First point, front office. Paxson should have been fired years ago, and Gar Forman isn't qualified for his job. That is a bigger reason they should be fired than this failure, pulling a rabbit out of their hat and getting one of the big guys would have been a job saving move more than anything. And how did they fail? They didn't get anybody. You can do everything in preparation you want, but if doesn't work, you failed. Pretty simple concept.

 

BJ Armstrong would have been a better GM lol...

[Steve9347]

Guys, it's time to move on... hopefully Boozer will get signed by the Bulls, maybe they'll even get him at cheaper than max depending on what New Jersey is offering. There is still a team that can be built here, and if LeBron doesn't go to Miami the East will be pretty wide open.

 

We still have a 22 year old guard who can ascend to the levels of Wade sooner rather than later.

[chw42]

Why would Ray Allen leave the Celtics, the team he's won a championship with and feels confortable with, to come to the Bulls? To play with Carlos Boozer, and Luol Deng? And do you really think that this team would compete with Cleveland, Miami or Boston? I don't think so.

 

Ray Allen would do wonders, but yeah, he's not leaving a great situation in Boston.

[RockRaines]

Screw "Thibbs", John Paxson, and Gar Forman. What happened to getting an experienced NBA head coach? This is doing to be VDN all over again. Was Byron Scott even interviewed?

He's been a coach in the NBA for 20 years and is universally revered in coaching circles around the league. Not even close to VDN.

[Steve9347]

Guys, it's time to move on... hopefully Boozer will get signed by the Bulls, maybe they'll even get him at cheaper than max depending on what New Jersey is offering. There is still a team that can be built here, and if LeBron doesn't go to Miami the East will be pretty wide open.

 

We still have a 22 year old guard who can ascend to the levels of Wade sooner rather than later.

[whitesoxfan101]

I actually think Thibbs will be a good head coach, but obviously nobody knows that for sure since he's basically just a longtime assistant up to this point, albeit a highly respected one.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[scenario]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bosh's contract is talked about in the same reverent tones as Alfonso Soriano's in a few years.

 

 

[bmags]

rock i think you need to remember we are talking about the NBA. There's no real mystery who the best teams are. If you get a few stars, you're set for years. Look at the NBA's history. While other sports are moving more towards parity, the nba is staying the same. Why? Because there is only a handful of these stars, and they can affect the game they play more than any other sport.

[DrunkBomber]

So it's not the Bulls fault they came up empty here? I mean, yeah we're venting our frustrations, and I agree that you can't make anybody come here. But the Bulls are going absolutely nowhere anytime soon now, and regardless of how good of a shot they gave it, this has been a completely failure. And just sitting there and saying oh well isn't good enough.

What should they have done? LBJ hasnt signed yet. Does Chicago not make the most sense for him? If he signs here is up to him but theres only so much you can do. They cleared cap for two big free agents and have 2 stud players in their early 20s already in place. Should we have sent Oprah? Asked Obama to make a call? If you put LeBron on this team with a Boozer/Lee type theyre the favorites in the east, even over the Heat. They created the best scenario out of any other team to lure free agents here but if they dont want to play here for whatever reason thats life.

[whitesoxfan101]

Guys, it's time to move on... hopefully Boozer will get signed by the Bulls, maybe they'll even get him at cheaper than max depending on what New Jersey is offering. There is still a team that can be built here, and if LeBron doesn't go to Miami the East will be pretty wide open.

 

We still have a 22 year old guard who can ascend to the levels of Wade sooner rather than later.

 

You're not winning an NBA championship with Carlos Boozer as your 2nd best player and making either near max or max money.

[RockRaines]

What should they have done? LBJ hasnt signed yet. Does Chicago not make the most sense for him? If he signs here is up to him but theres only so much you can do. They cleared cap for two big free agents and have 2 stud players in their early 20s already in place. Should we have sent Oprah? Asked Obama to make a call? If you put LeBron on this team with a Boozer/Lee type theyre the favorites in the east, even over the Heat. They created the best scenario out of any other team to lure free agents here but if they dont want to play here for whatever reason thats life.

Yes, but they didnt tie up the guys in the basement and torture them until they agreed. Because of that, they are failures.

[WHarris1]

Chris Bosh is a truly annoying mother f***er, what a shame that he won't be locked up in Canada anymore.

[chetkincaid]

who knows how he'll work out, but he has been a respected assistant for years and years and had at least one other team ready to make him an offer this year to be a coach.

 

That's right. ASSISTANT. Why hasn't he ever had a head coaching job before? And so what if another team offered him a job this year. Does that mean that the Bulls just had to have him?

 

[chw42]

The only guy I would like as a SG outside of Allen would be Roger Mason.

[southsider2k5]

So it's not the Bulls fault they came up empty here? I mean, yeah we're venting our frustrations, and I agree that you can't make anybody come here. But the Bulls are going absolutely nowhere anytime soon now, and regardless of how good of a shot they gave it, this has been a completely failure. And just sitting there and saying oh well isn't good enough.

 

Here's a thought, what does it say about the players we have here that no one wanted to come play with them?

[whitesoxfan101]

What should they have done? LBJ hasnt signed yet. Does Chicago not make the most sense for him? If he signs here is up to him but theres only so much you can do. They cleared cap for two big free agents and have 2 stud players in their early 20s already in place. Should we have sent Oprah? Asked Obama to make a call? If you put LeBron on this team with a Boozer/Lee type theyre the favorites in the east, even over the Heat. They created the best scenario out of any other team to lure free agents here but if they dont want to play here for whatever reason thats life.

 

Chicago makes a ton of sense for any of the big free agents. I suppose there are two ways to look at this really: either the Bulls are some sort of victim because they made this an attractive spot to come to and none of the big guys did, or they didn't do a good enough selling job of how attractive a spot this is.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[RockRaines]

Chicago makes a ton of sense for any of the big free agents. I suppose there are two ways to look at this really: either the Bulls are some sort of victim because they made this an attractive spot to come to and none of the big guys did, or they didn't do a good enough selling job of how attractive a spot this is.

How could they have sold it better?

[chw42]

You're not winning an NBA championship with Carlos Boozer as your 2nd best player and making either near max or max money.

 

We'll be like the Utah Jazz of the East, lol.

[DrunkBomber]

Chicago makes a ton of sense for any of the big free agents. I suppose there are two ways to look at this really: either the Bulls are some sort of victim because they made this an attractive spot to come to and none of the big guys did, or they didn't do a good enough selling job of how attractive a spot this is.

So we didnt sell Dwayne Wade on how great a city Chicago is?