chw42 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:10 PM) You're under-selling the Bucks quite a bit. They won 46 games last year with a rookie PG, Bogut missing 13 games and Michael Redd playing only 18 games. They also went 22-8 after Salmons joined the roster. With Jennings getting another year of experience, a wing trio of Salmons/Maggette/possibly Redd and Bogut up front, they have a legit shot at 50 wins. Considering the Bulls don't have a shooting guard or a legit scoring big at the moment, they're hardly a lock to beat Milwaukee. Salmons also tanked with us after he did something similar with the Bulls the previous year. I don't expect him to put up anywhere close to the numbers he did last year. Milwaukee's a good team, but I don't know if they're a 50 win team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:12 PM) FisolaNYDN Can't confirm this but a Knicks source claims the location may be Allan Houston's house. Wow Well, New York it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:10 PM) You're under-selling the Bucks quite a bit. They won 46 games last year with a rookie PG, Bogut missing 13 games and Michael Redd playing only 18 games. They also went 22-8 after Salmons joined the roster. With Jennings getting another year of experience, a wing trio of Salmons/Maggette/possibly Redd and Bogut up front, they have a legit shot at 50 wins. Considering the Bulls don't have a shooting guard or a legit scoring big at the moment, they're hardly a lock to beat Milwaukee. Yep, I said the Bucks will win the division if LeBron leaves the division and the Bulls strikeout, and I stand by it. If the Bulls made a couple of save face moves like acquiring Boozer/Lee and a decent 2 guard, it'd be close though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:11 PM) For the person that said Bosh is a top 10 player, I give you these 10 without even having to think too hard about it: - Kobe - James - Wade - Howard - Gasol - Nash - Durant - D. Williams - Paul - Nowitzki For everyone saying Lee just gets his numbers cause the Knicks run and gun and play no defense, it's not like Toronto was a slow tempo team. Bosh is somewhere in the top-20, where is highly debateable. As for the Lee comment, he's only broken the 20 point plateau once despite having no other good scorers on that team. Toronto was 13th in pace this year and had another legit scorer in Bargnani and another okay one in Turkoglu (though he had a bad year). Bosh still averaged 24 a game this season. He's quite a bit better offensively than Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:12 PM) Salmons also tanked with us after he did something similar with the Bulls the previous year. I don't expect him to put up anywhere close to the numbers he did last year. Milwaukee's a good team, but I don't know if they're a 50 win team. The difference is the Bulls lost Gordon the next year while the Bucks are actually adding talent (albiet fairly mediocre players). I'm not saying they're a lock for 50, I just doubt the Bulls are going to "easily" win the division over them unless they get Lebron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) Well, New York it is. Well, aside from the fact that it's not Allen Houston's mansion, but rather from a Boys and Girls Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 08:15 PM) As for the Lee comment, he's only broken the 20 point plateau once despite having no other good scorers on that team. Toronto was 13th in pace this year and had another legit scorer in Bargnani and another okay one in Turkoglu (though he had a bad year). Bosh still averaged 24 a game this season. He's quite a bit better offensively than Lee. Isn't Lee a significantly better passer? I'm not saying Bosh isn't better than Lee on offense though, but Bosh reminds me of the type of guy who's just out there to get his points, and not worry how the team performs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) FisolaNYDN Can't confirm this but a Knicks source claims the location may be Allan Houston's house. Wow No one will watch if that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 I love Soxtalk trying to talk itself into david f***ing lee being a better offensive player than chris bosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:12 PM) FisolaNYDN Can't confirm this but a Knicks source claims the location may be Allan Houston's house. Wow lol, might be at a boys and girls club now. either way, it's close to NY, i think that says something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:18 PM) Well, aside from the fact that it's not Allen Houston's mansion, but rather from a Boys and Girls Club. Yeah, people need to quit reading into the location of this thing. You're going to have to wait until the announcement to find out, as painful as that is. LeBron wants to milk every bit of drama out of this he can, that's why even the players and teams don't seem to know his choice. Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:18 PM) Isn't Lee a significantly better passer? I'm not saying Bosh isn't better than Lee on offense though, but Bosh reminds me of the type of guy who's just out there to get his points, and not worry how the team performs. That's a fact, Toronto's missing of the playoffs this past year was embarrassing Edited July 7, 2010 by WHarris1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) Well, New York it is. Just because that guy on twitter said it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) I love Soxtalk trying to talk itself into david f***ing lee being a better offensive player than chris bosh. Yep, cause who has actually said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:11 PM) For the person that said Bosh is a top 10 player, I give you these 10 without even having to think too hard about it: - Kobe - James - Wade - Howard - Gasol - Nash - Durant - D. Williams - Paul - Nowitzki For everyone saying Lee just gets his numbers cause the Knicks run and gun and play no defense, it's not like Toronto was a slow tempo team. I'll emphatically disagree about Pau. Everyone else I'd say you can make a solid argument for but there's still a few I'd take Bosh over at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) lol, might be at a boys and girls club now. either way, it's close to NY, i think that says something. Yeah, it says ESPN wanted it near their headquarters to make such a short notice presentation easier. Edited July 7, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) That's a fact, Toronto's missing of the playoffs this past year was embarrassing Chris Bosh should get a job in public relations when he's done, because I've never seen someone promote himself better than he has. He was able to get himself lumped into a "Big 3" category with 2 of the top 4 players in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 07:20 PM) I'll emphatically disagree about Pau. Everyone else I'd say you can make a solid argument for but there's still a few I'd take Bosh over at this point. I think Gasol's great, and have even said that I'd take him over Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) Just because that guy on twitter said it? If it was going to be at Allan Houston's house (now apparently, it isn't), then it probably would have been the Knicks. Is LeBron gonna go to Houston's house, who played a whole decade for the Knicks, and say I'm not going to New York? Edited July 7, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:18 PM) Isn't Lee a significantly better passer? I'm not saying Bosh isn't better than Lee on offense though, but Bosh reminds me of the type of guy who's just out there to get his points, and not worry how the team performs. Lee had 3.6 assists this year after a previous career high of 2.1. Not exactly Chris Webber or Brad Miller. Bosh is typically in the 2.5 range, so not a huge difference. Didn't people say the same thing about Gasol a few years ago? It's hard to be successful when no one on that team can play any kind of defense whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 have to love ESPN 1000 claiming as fact that its going to occur at Houston's home based on a tweet (twit?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 More than any other source, if Jared Dudley said it's the Knicks, I believe him. He's one of the most "connected" players in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:23 PM) More than any other source, if Jared Dudley said it's the Knicks, I believe him. He's one of the most "connected" players in the NBA. Or he wanted to gain thousands of followers, or he takes Amare's word as gospel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 02:23 PM) More than any other source, if Jared Dudley said it's the Knicks, I believe him. He's one of the most "connected" players in the NBA. I have a hard time believing Lebron and his crew have told anyone at this point, given how secretive he's been so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 As much as people seem to think Amar'e is something he's not, going to NY doesn't get LeBron any closer to a title than he is in Cleveland IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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