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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 09:40 PM)
Me too...if I lived and died with the Bulls like we do with the Sox, I'd be devastated right now.

Even in baseball, I can't fathom anything like this being set up. Right now, we have a couple dominant franchises...but they always have legitimate rivals. Yankees have fewer trophies since 2000 than the Red Sox. Other teams develop and get hot.

 

Even when a team outspends everyone, they can only get a couple rings a decade.

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:40 PM)
What the hell did Gar and Pax do wrong here? They played their cards like everyone else. In doing so they created a top three team in the East.

 

Lebron is a Yankees, Cowboys and was a huge Bulls fan in '91, '92,'93, '96, '97 and '98 despite being born and raised in Cleveland. He's the definition of a front-runner. He's got his rings. But they in the grand scheme of things they won't s***.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:38 PM)
Yeah, I'm amazed at how suddenly I'm so much less interested in the NBA.

 

Anywho, please tell me Pax and Forman have already been fired.

They wouldn't deserve to be fired. They put the best possible situation out there for LeBron, and he didn't give a s***. Miami's beaches stay warm in the winter.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:40 PM)
On a limb?! He f***ing guarandamnteed it! Put his rep and dignity he had left on the line. Lebron not only b****ed slapped himself and the NBA he took Steven to the back, raped him cold, and slit his throat.

 

I will bury his name on my sig later. You will be missed Steven Harnden.

 

The guy is a poster on a message board. Steve isn't some respected reporter who talks to GMs and has sources. Gimme a break.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 02:42 AM)
Frankly I'm glad baseball is such a team game that the best player changing teams isn't a totally do a die move. Although Pujols would never do something like LeBron just did.

 

Haha, I was thinking that Pujols in STL is the closest thing there is to LeBron in Cleveland.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 09:42 PM)
Frankly I'm glad baseball is such a team game that the best player changing teams isn't a totally do a die move. Although Pujols would never do something like LeBron just did.

Really? I could totally see Pujols winding up with a 10 year, $300 mil deal with the Yankees next offseason.

 

I just wouldn't sit there and think "oh, it's over now!" when they signed him, because baseball doesn't work that way.

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:41 PM)
LBJ did exactly what K Malone did back when he joined Shaq, Kobe and G Payton in hopes of winning a ring cept KM was old... punk move by LBJ.

 

I think that's a bit different. Karl Malone played 18 years with one team and wasn't a top player in the league anymore like LeBron is. But I see your point though.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:41 PM)
And if it were up to me, it wouldn't be happening.

 

Just because the guy made a foolish choice does not mean that this thread should denigrate into a cesspool of classless insults towards the guy and his family and friends.

 

This is going to be a pretty classic thread here...people will probably actually go back and read it. Let's not ruin it by turning into classless sore losers.

 

wow. jesus. over one post? tons of people in this thread "wasted" a good amount of time covering this story for the last couple of weeks. Let them vent. They're pissed and upset.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:42 PM)
Lebron is a Yankees, Cowboys and was a huge Bulls fan in '91, '92,'93, '96, '97 and '98 despite being born and raised in Cleveland. He's the definition of a front-runner. He's got his rings. But they in the grand scheme of things they won't s***.

Great point

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QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:39 PM)
You went out on a limb. No big deal. You gave Lebron more credit for being a man than you should of is all.

I just can't believe he cares so little about his legacy. People were willing to compare him to the greats.

 

No chance now.

 

That's why you don't make your BFFs your advisors, bc they just want to lay on the beach.

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I actually really like Zoom's idea of trading for Rip Hamilton actually. No he's not the ideal 3 point sniper, but basically a 2 point version of Ray Allen who comes off screens and back screens and shoots at an efficient rate. Add defense to the equation and you got a good player to pair with Rose and sign a sniper for the bench that a team can't match his RFA rights (in other words.. overpay a bit) like Morrow or Redick. I think the Bulls should really look into this.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 01:44 AM)
I just can't believe he cares so little about his legacy. People were willing to compare him to the greats.

 

No chance now.

 

That's why you don't make your BFFs your advisors, bc they just want to lay on the beach.

 

Bernstein was saying he kicked some of the people out of his "group" due to them telling him he needed to take the process more serious.

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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:45 PM)
I actually really like Zoom's idea of trading for Rip Hamilton actually. No he's not the ideal 3 point sniper, but basically a 2 point version of Ray Allen who comes off screens and back screens and shoots at an efficient rate. Add defense to the equation and you got a good player to pair with Rose and sign a sniper for the bench that a team can't match his RFA rights (in other words.. overpay a bit) like Morrow or Redick. I think the Bulls should really look into this.

 

Hamilton makes $37 million for the next 3 years, the last year isn't guaranteed though.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 09:43 PM)
They wouldn't deserve to be fired. They put the best possible situation out there for LeBron, and he didn't give a s***. Miami's beaches stay warm in the winter.

Let's put it this way. They bet everything and lost. They gambled the last 2 years of their franchise and the next 3+ years of their franchise on being able to win one of the top 3 guys this offseason, and couldn't figure out that the top 3 guys had all decided 2 years ago at the olympics that they wanted to play together.

 

They could have won more games the last few years if they hadn't been going for cap space, and decided to go for the cap space instead.

 

For that decision, they got the rights to give a terrible contract to Carlos Boozer.

 

If that's not a fireable offense, then I don't know what is.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 09:45 PM)
Also what did the Bulls' front office do wrong? Seriously. The team is better than it was last year.

Exactly. How can you not like the Thibo hire? Or Boozer? Or going all in for the biggest free agency period ever? These guys want to win. And look at the East sans the Heat. They will.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:43 PM)
Really? I could totally see Pujols winding up with a 10 year, $300 mil deal with the Yankees next offseason.

 

I just wouldn't sit there and think "oh, it's over now!" when they signed him, because baseball doesn't work that way.

But he wouldnt have his own special on ESPN IMO.

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