Palehosefan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) That would be quite the welcome to NBA hell, unless they flipped Wallace later for picks and went into tank mode. That would be the smart path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Poor Gerald Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) Poor Gerald Wallace. I still doubt it happens. I firmly believe the Magic have zero desire to trade Dwight, and are just placating his peeps. There really is no reason to move him right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 13, 2011 -> 09:09 PM) Theo Ratliff was traded mid-season for Mutombo. A 4-time DOPY and the modern day Bill Russell. I'm sorry. The rosters don't look that much different to me. Wait. What?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 13, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard 56 sec Reply Retweet Favorite · Open There r only 4 teams Dwight Howard would sign longterm with - Orl, NJ, LAL, Dal - source says. Rules out a possible DRose-D12 duo in CHI Not that we didn't know this. Howard is a douche, joining the Bulls would make him an instant long term title contender and we would deny LBJ and the Heat their 7-8 cships. New Jersey??GTFO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't get it. All Rose has to do is pick up the phone and he can make this a top notch franchise potentially, instead of a second tier one. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/...ruiting-players Derrick Rose not comfortable recruiting By Nick Friedell ESPNChicago.com Archive DEERFIELD, Ill. -- Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose doesn't want to recruit players -- now, or in the future. "That's just not me," he told ESPNChicago.com on Tuesday night. "My whole life, I've never been the type of player where I've recruited people like that." Rose knows there are a lot of people out there who wish he would pick up the phone to call Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard, who has requested a trade from his team, or other prominent free agents in the future, but the 23 year old says it's not in his nature. "I've never been a coach," he continued with a laugh. "I don't know how the conversation would go, actually, if I called him. 'What's up?' or whatever? I don't know how to even approach someone about coming here. It would be super hard." Rose is skeptical a personal phone call would make that much of a difference, even one coming from the reigning NBA MVP. "I don't think one person can do that," he said. "That's just like if someone called me, asking me to come to their team, I don't think I would come just because they called. I think I would have to know where I'm living at, knowing where I'll eat at every night. Everything comes into play when you talk about moving to another city." Rose said he wasn't offended that Howard didn't list the Bulls as a team he would like to be traded to and sign an extension with. Howard, through his agent Dan Fegan, said he only wanted to be dealt to the Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks or New Jersey Nets. "I'm not worried about that," Rose said. "Everybody has their own place where they want to play, their own agenda. So it was up to him." When pressed, Rose admitted that his stance on recruiting would probably never change. "I don't think so," he said. "I don't think I'll ever be able to." Not surprisingly, Rose said that he hasn't spoken to Howard. "No, I haven't talked to him," Rose said. "You know me, I think Chicago speaks for itself marketing-wise. It's a great place. Why wouldn't anyone want to come here? He's probably been getting calls from everyone. Everybody's trying to talk to him, but no, I haven't talked to him." Rose is just glad he doesn't have to endure what the New Orleans Hornets' Chris Paul and Howard are currently experiencing. "To each their own," he said. "There's nothing I can say about that. I'm happy I'm not going through that right now. I can only imagine what they're going through. Right now, I'm just trying to worry about the Bulls." Nick Friedell covers the Bulls for ESPNChicago.com and ESPN 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) I don't get it. All Rose has to do is pick up the phone and he can make this a top notch franchise potentially, instead of a second tier one. I don't get why a guy can't be above stooping to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:25 PM) I don't get why a guy can't be above stooping to that level. Because winning championships is better than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) I don't get it. All Rose has to do is pick up the phone and he can make this a top notch franchise potentially, instead of a second tier one. Do you honestly believe that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) Do you honestly believe that?? After seeing how the superteams got hatched exactly by guys getting together and recruiting other players? Why wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) Wait. What?! And this is shocking because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) After seeing how the superteams got hatched exactly by guys getting together and recruiting other players? Why wouldn't you? I know it's taboo around these parts to even insinuate D-rose is anything but perfect. But maybe he simply doesn't want to play with another superstar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:46 PM) After seeing how the superteams got hatched exactly by guys getting together and recruiting other players? Why wouldn't you? Name 1 of those guys who came out of doing so looking like a decent human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) Name 1 of those guys who came out of doing so looking like a decent human being. And when the NBA starts awarding the "Decent Human Being" award at the end of the season, I might care. This is it. This is how the game is played today. If Derrick doesn't want to play the game, the Bulls will never win anything, and there is no real point at having him on this team, no matter how much he wants to be here. And it isn't like we are talking about something like child molesting, point shaving, or something else illegal or immoral. Trying to get someone to work at the same job you are isn't some crime. Sure you don't need to go to LeBron lengths after it is done, but unless you want to get left behind, you have to acknowledge what the playing field is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm with ss2k5. We know that rose is very shy, but I think what's harder for him to do is do this in a way that he doesn't feel like he's selling out his teammates. I think he needs noah to be the voice of the team for him, and Rose has to implicitly know that recruiting Howard means losing one of his best friends. Howard, paul, melo, they didn't really have that aspect of a young team all coming up together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i think Rose already knows Howards position, and I think he already knew Lebrons position too. Why waste the breath when he knew those guys are going to go where they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If Wallace is sent to the Magic, I'd try and swing for him, since in Thibs system SG = SF basically. Unreal D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) And this is shocking because? Because Bill Russell is a top 10 player (conservatively) of all time, and Motumbo wa a one trick pony who blocked shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 here we go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Getting pissed at Derrick Rose for not recruiting is just silly. The kid is all about working hard and being the best. I know he's not on that level, but do you believe Jordan would have recruited players? s*** no. Recruiting is not part of Rose. If players want to come try to win a championship, he will receive them with open arms, but begging an enemy (and trust me, this is how D-Rose views these guys, especially a guy he's had run-ins with in the past on the court) to come play with him isn't in his blood. Everything that has made D-Rose so great so quickly is that he has that MJ-esque competitive nature. I'd rather have Rose than some joker like LeBron or Howard who care more about sandy beaches than about winning. Also, Derrick Rose is not shy. Someone said that. That is not the case. He's young, and really came into his own with the media starting at media day last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) i think Rose already knows Howards position, and I think he already knew Lebrons position too. Why waste the breath when he knew those guys are going to go where they want Rose also spent no time trying to convince anyone to come here. IIRC Wade started after LeBron at the 2008 Olympics. Today's game is all about ego. How are you going to sell someone to come here? Play to that ego. No play? No second superstar, no title. Apparently Rose is OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) And when the NBA starts awarding the "Decent Human Being" award at the end of the season, I might care. This is it. This is how the game is played today. If Derrick doesn't want to play the game, the Bulls will never win anything, and there is no real point at having him on this team, no matter how much he wants to be here. And it isn't like we are talking about something like child molesting, point shaving, or something else illegal or immoral. Trying to get someone to work at the same job you are isn't some crime. Sure you don't need to go to LeBron lengths after it is done, but unless you want to get left behind, you have to acknowledge what the playing field is today. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the team that won the championship last year had one superstar player right? Edited December 14, 2011 by Jenksismybitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) Getting pissed at Derrick Rose for not recruiting is just silly. The kid is all about working hard and being the best. I know he's not on that level, but do you believe Jordan would have recruited players? s*** no. Recruiting is not part of Rose. If players want to come try to win a championship, he will receive them with open arms, but begging an enemy (and trust me, this is how D-Rose views these guys, especially a guy he's had run-ins with in the past on the court) to come play with him isn't in his blood. Everything that has made D-Rose so great so quickly is that he has that MJ-esque competitive nature. I'd rather have Rose than some joker like LeBron or Howard who care more about sandy beaches than about winning. Also, Derrick Rose is not shy. Someone said that. That is not the case. He's young, and really came into his own with the media starting at media day last year. Rose is not in Jordan's league. He will never be able to win a title without a lot of help, especially because the game has changed when it comes to personnel movement today. It isn't the 90's anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) Rose also spent no time trying to convince anyone to come here. IIRC Wade started after LeBron at the 2008 Olympics. Today's game is all about ego. How are you going to sell someone to come here? Play to that ego. No play? No second superstar, no title. Apparently Rose is OK with that. Really, this is all conjecture. We dont know what happens behind the scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) here we go again. Seriously, don't get J4L started again on Bill Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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