HuskyCaucasian Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) I think you fools are getting Boers and Bernstein mixed up. Dan Bernstein didn't cover the Bulls, but Terry Boers did. Dan Bernstein blows smoke out of his ass more often than not, and the last time he leaned on his "sources" he "broke" the Kobe to Chicago rumor and guaranteed it. Guess what, it didn't happen. Actually Bernstein DID cover the Bulls during the Jordan era. Boers, I believe, covered the Bears. (I remember them telling stories about Boers and the Silverdome) With regards to the Kobe deal, it almost went down. The sticking point was Deng. The bulls wanted to trade him, but Kobe wouldn't come if they did. So, technically he was right, the last detail just couldnt get done. Edited July 1, 2010 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Dan bernstein DID cover the nba, i never said he covered the bulls Edit; so he did cover the bulls, ok ! Edited July 1, 2010 by Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 After a day of MIAMI MIAMI MIAMI all the talk seems to be centering around Cleveland and Chicago or right where we were when this all started a month or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:08 PM) Actually Bernstein DID cover the Bulls during the Jordan era. Boers, I believe, covered the Bears. (I remember them telling stories about Boers and the Silverdome) With regards to the Kobe deal, it almost went down. The sticking point was Deng. The bulls wanted to trade him, but Kobe wouldn't come if they did. So, technically he was right, the last detail just couldnt get done. The Score carried very little weight when he "covered" the Bulls. He did nothing more than carry a microphone. Boers is the one who has contacts, and people are getting them confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Boers has the NBA sources, while Bernstein has the MLB sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:13 PM) The Score carried very little weight when he "covered" the Bulls. He did nothing more than carry a microphone. Boers is the one who has contacts, and people are getting them confused. Oh, there's not doubt that Boers has more contacts. He's been around forever. Even if Bernsie did just carry a mic, he did cover them, and therefor has contacts. Edited July 1, 2010 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggliopipe Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:58 PM) Not questioning his sources, but he is way off base on this opinion. Man I gotta disagree. They've got very similar games and Wade is basically Miami's point guard (if not in name). He's got a more developed post game than Rose but otherwise they're remarkably similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Cleveland signed Byron Scott (supposedly) which would definitely point to LBJ staying in Cleveland, although I don't see how Cleveland is any better next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 If he goes back, oh well. It's his own fault if Cleveland keeps sucking in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 From FanHouse Byron Scott's agent, Brian McInerney, e-mails FanHouse, denies Scott is in negotiations w/ Cavs: "Byron has not spoken to The Cavs today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:38 PM) From FanHouse Ha, this is all just such bulls***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) HOLY CRAP sportsguy33 Breaking news, no joking around: Just found out where LeBron and Bosh are going. So it looks like they're both getting max contracts with th Edited July 1, 2010 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Ehh. I don't think Rose's offensive game is all that similar to Wade's. Rose can't score outside of 19-20 feet. Also, as mentioned, Wade's post game is far superior. On the flip side, Rose is a much better distributor, and I don't think it's close there. The only similarities are they both can handle the ball and are f***ing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:51 PM) HOLY CRAP This is why I love Bill Simmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:36 PM) Cleveland signed Byron Scott (supposedly) which would definitely point to LBJ staying in Cleveland, although I don't see how Cleveland is any better next year. Nope Shaw said he didn't feel comfortable committing before LBJ, and the Cavs wanted a coach before Lebron went to free agency. http://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:13 PM) Boers has the NBA sources, while Bernstein has the MLB sources. By cracky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Since when are Rose and Wade drastically different players? They're roughly the same size (both about 6'3" or 6'4" with good bulk), they both have the ball in their hands most of the game, they both do most of their damage on the drive, and neither of them can hit a 3 with any kind of efficiency. That sounds pretty similar to me. Are they exactly the same player? No, Wade is better at finishing at the rim, gets to the line more and plays better D, while Rose is a better mid-range shooter. It's not much of a stretch to say that their respective production/efficiency would go down a bit if they had to share the floor since they have most of the same strengths and weaknesses. They're both good so they'd make it work, but it's less than ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:23 PM) Since when are Rose and Wade drastically different players? They're roughly the same size (both about 6'3" or 6'4" with good bulk), they both have the ball in their hands most of the game, they both do most of their damage on the drive, and neither of them can hit a 3 with any kind of efficiency. That sounds pretty similar to me. Are they exactly the same player? No, Wade is better at finishing at the rim, gets to the line more and plays better D, while Rose is a better mid-range shooter. It's not much of a stretch to say that their respective production/efficiency would go down a bit if they had to share the floor since they have most of the same strengths and weaknesses. They're both good so they'd make it work, but it's less than ideal. Wade can shoot the 3 and post up. Rose is a mid range guy and penetrator. Wade obviously penetrates as well. Bernstein saying they couldn't play together is way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (kev211 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:01 PM) This is why I love Bill Simmons. Bill Simmons is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) Wade can shoot the 3 and post up. Rose is a mid range guy and penetrator. Wade obviously penetrates as well. Bernstein saying they couldn't play together is way off. Wade shoots the three, that doesn't mean he can or should shoot it. He shot 30% from outside this year and is at 28.9% for his career. That f***ing sucks. The shot distribution by zones is almost identical... Wade- 7.4 attempts per game at rim, 1.8 attempts Rose- 5.6 attempts at rim, 2.1 attempts There's really not much of a difference there, other than Wade takes more shots. "Can play together" is relative. They'd both still be effective players, but they're not going to combine for anything close to 50 PPG when they're fighting to get to the same places on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Zoom. Why did you abandon the Soxtalk fantasy leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 08:58 PM) Ehh. I don't think Rose's offensive game is all that similar to Wade's. Rose can't score outside of 19-20 feet. Also, as mentioned, Wade's post game is far superior. On the flip side, Rose is a much better distributor, and I don't think it's close there. The only similarities are they both can handle the ball and are f***ing good. They are very similar now, even more so in the beginning of their careers. Check Wade's numbers and percentages in almost anything on the offensive end, they are very similar. Wade really stepped up his game from behind the arc last year which will most likely happen with Rose as he matures. They both score OFTEN while driving to the hole which is definitely not ideal to have them both on the court at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Why is anyone even bothering with the rumors anymore at this point? We're hearing something different about every 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 1, 2010 -> 03:51 AM) Why is anyone even bothering with the rumors anymore at this point? We're hearing something different about every 10 minutes. Yep, now it seems Johnson will stay in Atlanta and LeBron is almost definitely going to stay in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:48 PM) Zoom. Why did you abandon the Soxtalk fantasy leagues? I'm not really any worse than I was last year, I'm not a high-transaction guy. I made 9 moves COMBINED in the three Soxtalk leagues last year to much greater effect. I just drafted like s*** this year apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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