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So is Bosh definitely going to go as a sign and trade?

 

If so, I just don't see any way that Bosh and LeBron end up on the same team. And yet, Bucher seems to think the two could go to Chicago, but not to Miami with Wade.

 

I don't get that.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:52 PM)
Actually ESPN said why Bosh, Wade and Lebron would work.

 

You can sign unlimited minimum contracts, meaning that the other players would all be minimum guys.

But if you saw Bucher, he explained why it would not work. In theory, the numbers add up, but you have to find NINE other guys willing to sign for nothing. He then went on to say that LeBron is not going to want to play with Bosh if Bosh is making more money because he came as a sign and trade.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:51 PM)
So is Bosh definitely going to go as a sign and trade?

 

If so, I just don't see any way that Bosh and LeBron end up on the same team. And yet, Bucher seems to think the two could go to Chicago, but not to Miami with Wade.

 

I don't get that.

The Bulls could do a sign and trade relativeily easily with Toronto and find a way to get Bosh at a max deal. It would be easy if they wanted Deng, a little harder if they didn't.

 

The reason they don't think it would work for Miami is that Chicago has better assets to offer Toronto. That said, at the end of the day, Bosh holds all hte leverage, not Toronto, so at the end of the day, I think Toronto for the most part will take what they can get (albeit, I don't know if it would be just Deng, but Deng/Taj would be something they'd at least think about).

 

And it frees up enough money for the Bulls to possibly go LBJ/Bosh/Ray Allen.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:53 PM)
But if you saw Bucher, he explained why it would not work. In theory, the numbers add up, but you have to find NINE other guys willing to sign for nothing. He then went on to say that LeBron is not going to want to play with Bosh if Bosh is making more money because he came as a sign and trade.

There is no way LBJ would be the least paid. There is no way LBJ would be the 2nd fiddle and quite frankly, LBJ will always be 2nd fiddle to Wade if it is in Miami.

 

I can't even go on how stupid those rumors really were, imo. Do I get nervous, sure, but all sensible logic tells me it makes zero sense from LBJ's perspective.

 

I still think the Bulls get one of the following: LBJ/Bosh, LBJ/Johnson, Bosh/Johnson

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:55 PM)
The Bulls could do a sign and trade relativeily easily with Toronto and find a way to get Bosh at a max deal. It would be easy if they wanted Deng, a little harder if they didn't.

 

The reason they don't think it would work for Miami is that Chicago has better assets to offer Toronto. That said, at the end of the day, Bosh holds all hte leverage, not Toronto, so at the end of the day, I think Toronto for the most part will take what they can get (albeit, I don't know if it would be just Deng, but Deng/Taj would be something they'd at least think about).

 

And it frees up enough money for the Bulls to possibly go LBJ/Bosh/Ray Allen.

The point I am trying to make is how is LeBron going to play with Bosh if Bosh is making more money than him? I agree with Bucher that it just is not happening.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:56 PM)
There is no way LBJ would be the least paid. There is no way LBJ would be the 2nd fiddle and quite frankly, LBJ will always be 2nd fiddle to Wade if it is in Miami.

 

I can't even go on how stupid those rumors really were, imo. Do I get nervous, sure, but all sensible logic tells me it makes zero sense from LBJ's perspective.

 

I still think the Bulls get one of the following: LBJ/Bosh, LBJ/Johnson, Bosh/Johnson

But if Bosh comes as a sign and trade, and LeBron just as a FA, than Bosh will be more highly paid.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 11:58 PM)
But if Bosh comes as a sign and trade, and LeBron just as a FA, than Bosh will be more highly paid.

 

Toronto doesn't want Deng, so there would be no sign and trade with them if we get Bosh

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:57 PM)
The point I am trying to make is how is LeBron going to play with Bosh if Bosh is making more money than him? I agree with Bucher that it just is not happening.

I think of it as doing a S&T to make sure Bosh gets max money. I think you and Bucher are completely correct in the sense that there is no way LBJ will be paid less than any of the other guys.

 

It is why I find it more likely we end up with LBJ/Johnson or LBJ/Boozer or LBJ/Amare, etc.

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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:02 PM)
Toronto doesn't want Deng, so there would be no sign and trade with them if we get Bosh

I know it has bee nreported that ist he case, but I wouldn't give up. If Deng/Taj is the offer, I think they take it.

 

I don't get this talk of the Nets winning out, but crazier things could happen and the odds are better than Miami getting both of em.

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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 1, 2010 -> 12:02 AM)
Toronto doesn't want Deng, so there would be no sign and trade with them if we get Bosh

Why not?

 

I am sure they could send him along to the Kings for something.

 

I dunno, maybe Bosh passes on the extra money if he has a chance to play with LeBron, but I don't see him as that type of guy...

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:03 PM)
Why not?

 

I am sure they could send him along to the Kings for something.

 

I dunno, maybe Bosh passes on the extra money if he has a chance to play with LeBron, but I don't see him as that type of guy...

I think Bosh or LBJ will be our big signing and I think we will get one of em.

 

I sure as hell hope so because I think if we can get one of them, than whatever and whomever else we sign, we'll end up being a title contender, imo.

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QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jul 1, 2010 -> 12:21 AM)
Not 1 of the 4 analysts on NBA Fastbreak picked Chicago as LBJ's landing spot, two minutes ago. 2 NY's, 2 CLE.

 

Best news today. Makes me think LeBron to Chicago has alot more legs than given credit.

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QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jul 1, 2010 -> 12:21 AM)
Not 1 of the 4 analysts on NBA Fastbreak picked Chicago as LBJ's landing spot, two minutes ago. 2 NY's, 2 CLE.

Was this recorded two months ago? I don't know what has happened recently that has made New York reenter the discussion, and people only select Cleveland to purposely go against other destinations. If he wanted to stay in Cleveland he would have resigned. Everything their front office has done doesn't suggest to me that they think he's a likely bet to return.

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It's been an exciting first couple of hrs. Got some interesting visits and presentations from Houston, Toronto, Chicago and Miami. We'll see who else will come out tomorrow.

Chris Bosh on Twitter 5 minutes ago.

 

 

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QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:02 PM)
Richard Jefferson opts out of San ANtonio, walking away from 15 million dollars. WTF

Lockout. He wants to get a 4 year, $8-10 million deal from someone before the new CBA hits and the best he can do is 3/$12.

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