maggsmaggs Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 This whole circus is the most annoying thing I have ever seen in my life. These guys need to make up their frickin minds already and stop the media craziness. They are know where they are going to be (IMO) they are just attention-starving media whores who can't get enough of the limelight. And sadly, I am following every gosh darn tweet about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 02:11 PM) This whole circus is the most annoying thing I have ever seen in my life. These guys need to make up their frickin minds already and stop the media craziness. They are know where they are going to be (IMO) they are just attention-starving media whores who can't get enough of the limelight. And sadly, I am following every gosh darn tweet about them. Both the players and teams are waiting on LeBron, and his decision is the toughest of them all. I doubt there are many formal offers on the table to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 IMO, bosh and wade deals to the bulls havent been announced yet b/c bulls have cap issues that need resolved first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Johnson agrees with hawks 6 years 120 million. Welcome to NBA hell Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) IMO, bosh and wade deals to the bulls havent been announced yet b/c bulls have cap issues that need resolved first i dont think the bulls are as close to landing bosh as some people may think.....i see us landing wade if we are lucky and that's about it out of the big 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 03:01 PM) i dont think the bulls are as close to landing bosh as some people may think.....i see us landing wade if we are lucky and that's about it out of the big 3 Really? Bosh wants the spotlight. He wants to become a superstar. He's made it very apparent that he wants as much attention as he can get. He wants the marketing opportunities. I think he knows Miami or NJ isn't the place for this. Personally, I think this is why Wade has so much sudden interest in CHI. But we all have our theories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Bosh should go to New Jersey if he wants cash and spotlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 But it's NJ. Though when it becomes Brooklyn, that's going to be an awesome spot to be. So who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 If he's there 6 years and takes the Nets to the playoffs, he'll be the main guy in the New York area market. Maybe more than Stoudemire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Definitely. If he's willing to wait 3 years until the move, it'll pay off big time. Of course it could backfire if the Knicks land Melo, Amare, and others and become a power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Though it'll be tough for the Nets to move past the Knicks. It'll be a Cubs/Sox situation where the Sox will always be second fiddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) Yeah, you have ZERO shot at being the main guy in the New York area on the Nets unless you lead them to a championship victory (or are LeBron James). Even Jason Kidd didn't get a great deal of attention there in leading them to the finals twice in a row, they had playoff games that didn't sell out both of those years. Edited July 4, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) Knicks had second meeting with James reps Edited July 4, 2010 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) Yeah, you have ZERO shot at being the main guy in the New York area on the Nets unless you lead them to a championship victory (or are LeBron James). Even Jason Kidd didn't get a great deal of attention there in leading them to the finals twice in a row, they had playoff games that didn't sell out both of those years. Even if they are the Brooklyn Ballers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) Knicks had second meeting with James reps That is interesting. I honestly do not have the slightest clue what this man is thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 05:21 PM) That is interesting. I honestly do not have the slightest clue what this man is thinking. it was yesterday from what I gather and it was after they locked Amare down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) Even if they are the Brooklyn Ballers? That would help, but they aren't going to be for a few years. I don't even think moving to Brooklyn could move the Nets past the Knicks though, although I'm sure that's the plan they tried to sell LeBron on, along with endorsements he could make. And yeah, in response to iamshack, I honestly don't know if anybody has a clue what LeBron is thinking. Even with the WWW stuff, you'd THINK that means he's staying in Cleveland, but it's just hard to read into anything LBJ does. Which is precisely why you take Wade and Bosh if you have the chance and don't wait on LeBron, it's just too dangerous to do if there is another viable option. Edited July 4, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I've been looking at some advanced basketball metrics...and to my surprise, Carlos Boozer is probably the second best big man out of the big 4 when he is healthy. 2010 Wins Produced/WARP Bosh: 13.5/14 Boozer: 11.3/11.7 Stoudemire: 11.3/10.8 Lee: 6.2/13.2 From this, it seems like Lee's numbers don't exactly match up. WARP and wins produced are two different things, but usually, they do correlate. Anyways, I would doubt that David Lee is almost as good as Chris Bosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I don't want Sabermetrics in my other sports. I'll let you guys stick with it for baseball, but that is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 06:38 PM) That would help, but they aren't going to be for a few years. I don't even think moving to Brooklyn could move the Nets past the Knicks though, although I'm sure that's the plan they tried to sell LeBron on, along with endorsements he could make. I never thought that they'd move past the Knicks in popularity. The Nets just have a better chance to be more successful fan-wise than them, if they win when they move to Brooklyn. Kind of like how the Jets and Mets fans come out when they win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 05:54 PM) I don't want Sabermetrics in my other sports. I'll let you guys stick with it for baseball, but that is it. The problem with basketball metrics is that they're nowhere near as accurate as the baseball ones, and with all the people who already doubt baseball sabermetrics, they should probably laugh at the basketball ones. Still, I posted that as something interesting to consider, not something to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) Yeah, baseball is really the only good sport for advanced metrics because of how individualized it is. Edited July 4, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 11:08 AM) World Wide Wes was booted from James' inner circle. Wow.. not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 4, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) Wow.. not good. Of course, that came from Bucher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 How do you get kicked out of someones inner circle? Its not like that's something that has a membership card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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