JUGGERNAUT Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 With KW eluding to Schow being in the 2k4 rotation, let's discuss who we want to ship, keep, sign, & dump. Maggs: due 14MIL nxt yr. 1 yr before ufa. What to do: sign him to a 60/5. Larry Walker is making a tad bit over 12MIL, & the 60/5 can be structured to be escalating: 10,11,12,13,14. Rowand: Keep Everett: Arbit for compensation. There will be a buyer. RAlomar: arbit for compensation. There will be a buyer. Valentin: 1 yr, 3MIL Crede: Keep Lee: Un-signed rfa. What to do: sign him to 18/3. Escalating as 5,6,7. Koney: ship. Koney is a solid offense player yr to yr. There will be takers. Olivo: Keep SAlomar: sing 1 yr, 1MIL Colon: arbit for compensation or sign him to a 50/5. Probably will go to Yanks to replace Clemens in the rotation. If gone seek new #4 pitcher. Cotts? E-LO: pick up option = ACE Buehrle: arbit or sign to 30/5, escalating. Garland: arbit or sign to 22/5. Schow: arbit or sign. Make 5th starter. Koch: ship. Like Koney, 1 yr does not ruin a career. There will be takers. White: dump .. somewhere in the Meadowlands. Gordon: pick up option. Marte: raise Replace Koney with Frank & bring up or acquire a new 1B/DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Let's see what the 2003 team does, before we start to talk about who to bring back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Maggs: due 14MIL nxt yr. 1 yr before ufa. What to do: sign him to a 60/5. Larry Walker is making a tad bit over 12MIL, & the 60/5 can be structured to be escalating: 10,11,12,13,14. INTERESTING IDEA Rowand: Keep// AGREE Everett: Arbit for compensation. There will be a buyer. LET HIM WALK RAlomar: arbit for compensation. There will be a buyer. DO WE HAVE A 2B READY TO TAKE OVER, NO SO SIGN HIM Valentin: 1 yr, 3MIL //AGREE Crede: Keep // AGREE Lee: Un-signed rfa. What to do: sign him to 18/3. Escalating as 5,6,7. DO YOU THINK HE WILL TAKE THAT LESS TO SIGN, I DON'T.TRADE BAIT. Koney: ship. Koney is a solid offense player yr to yr. There will be takers. KEEP FOR AT LEAST 2 OR 3 YRS AND SEE WHAT VALUE HE BRINGS IN AT TRADE DEADLINE. Olivo: Keep // AGREE SAlomar: sing 1 yr, 1MIL // AGREE Colon: arbit for compensation or sign him to a 50/5. Probably will go to Yanks to replace Clemens in the rotation. If gone seek new #4 pitcher. Cotts? I THINK COLON IS HISTORY, I THINK HE DOESN'T WANT TO STAY HERE E-LO: pick up option = ACE// ACE? I DON'T KNOW BUT HE IS A KEEPER Buehrle: arbit or sign to 30/5, escalating. // GOTS TO SIGN HIM Garland: arbit or sign to 22/5.// KEEPER Schow: arbit or sign. Make 5th starter. // A 5TH STARTER, I DOUBT IT, A KEEPER Koch: ship. Like Koney, 1 yr does not ruin a career. There will be takers. NAME A TEAM THAT WILL TAKE A CHANCE ON HIM AND HIS 4.5 MIL A YR CONTRACT White: dump .. somewhere in the Meadowlands. //BYE BYE Gordon: pick up option. AND SIGN HIM Marte: raise // AGREE Replace Koney with Frank & bring up or acquire a new 1B/DH.// NO LOOK AT ABOVE WITH PAULIE pls excuse the caps. i wanted to use what you wrote. k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Let's see what the 2003 team does, before we start to talk about who to bring back... Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 You just spent a s***load of money on pitchers, and we all know that JR does not do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Irish Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 We are in the midst of one hell of a divisional race and you want to talk about 2004? Before tomorrow, we may already have another starter for next year. I hate to say it but this sounds like a north side thread. In a race and talking about next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 what ever we do this yr will not affect on what is going to happen next yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 what ever we do this yr will not affect on what is going to happen next yr. Are you telling me if we win the WS, that we let guys walk away? Even if we get to the WS, we then have an almost obligation to bring back guys like Colon, Alomar, Everett, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 what ever we do this yr will not affect on what is going to happen next yr. ldf it will have a HUGE effect on what happens next year.........if we tank you can look to see a cheap version of a team on the field for the begining of next year and more invites like they did with loz et el to spring camp to see who will do something good and cheaply.........if we win we may .. and i say may, get to hang onto a few guys like everyones beloved colon, r alomar ect ect......what we do this year has a ton to do with what will happen for the next........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 I don't give 2 s***s about 2004 right now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Let's see what the 2003 team does, before we start to talk about who to bring back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 If one year doesnt rui na career why would we give away Koch? I would be willing to bet anything hes our closer next year and saves 35+ games he needs more chances here with the sox.. let me remind everyone BLOWN SAVES Koch - 4 Marte - 6 Koch is not bad, he needs more chances to get back to where he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 If one year doesnt rui na career why would we give away Koch? I would be willing to bet anything hes our closer next year and saves 35+ games he needs more chances here with the sox.. let me remind everyone BLOWN SAVES Koch - 4 Marte - 6 Koch is not bad, he needs more chances to get back to where he was How many of Marte's blown saves were as a closer? The answer is none. That is a misleading stat. All of Koch's blown saves are in a closing roll. If you want to compare the two show all of their numbers instead of telling half of the story. You want to compare ERA's, opp BAA, WHIP, K/9IP, BB/9IP, etc, then we can talk. Otherwise you are intentionally being misleading and only telling half the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetJfour Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Besides the fact that 2004 doesn't interest me at all at this point, you should possibly keep Koch only because he'll probably join some other team and be a dominating closer (Keith Foullke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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