Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 01:57 PM) Except he makes 8 times more. What would be the Red Sox motivation for eating all but the pro-rated minimum left on Lowell's deal and getting nothing at all in return? The fact that they were on the verge of getting Max Ramirez for Lowell and eating 3/4 of his deal says they should probably hold out for a decent young player. At this point, if they could get another team to pick up a million or two of his salary, that would free up a roster spot for them, and they could certainly use that in their beaten up OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 12:57 PM) Except he makes 8 times more. What would be the Red Sox motivation for eating all but the pro-rated minimum left on Lowell's deal and getting nothing at all in return? The fact that they were on the verge of getting Max Ramirez for Lowell and eating 3/4 of his deal says they should probably hold out for a decent young player. Decent young players are no longer an option. The Red Sox motivation would be to clear up a bench spot, remove an unhappy player, etc. No one is taking on any part of that contract right now. If the Sox make a deal, expect something like Jhonny Nunez for Lowell with the Red Sox eating everything but the prorated minimum. And right now that would be a good deal for the Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 01:02 PM) Decent young players are no longer an option. The Red Sox motivation would be to clear up a bench spot, remove an unhappy player, etc. No one is taking on any part of that contract right now. If the Sox make a deal, expect something like Jhonny Nunez for Lowell with the Red Sox eating everything but the prorated minimum. And right now that would be a good deal for the Red Sox. How valuable is Nunez? I would probably do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) How valuable is Nunez? I would probably do this. 24 year old in AA for the 3rd year in a row with a 1.37 WHIP. Right now, not looking too good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) 24 year old in AA for the 3rd year in a row with a 1.37 WHIP. Right now, not looking too good. Yeah... If that gets Mike Lowell and boston eats his salary, The Sox should jump all over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) 24 year old in AA for the 3rd year in a row with a 1.37 WHIP. Right now, not looking too good. Just got promoted to AAA, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 11:46 AM) LOL, check out the picture of Lowell on that article. Its perfect for the context. He looks like someone ran over his dog. LOL it looks like he IS the dog that got run over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yuk. I'd rather rush somebody up and play all young guys even if it still means L after L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Anyone hear what Boers said about Lowell? Basically said there's no doubt in the industry he used performance enhancers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Anyone hear what Boers said about Lowell? Basically said there's no doubt in the industry he used performance enhancers. I don't really put a lot into anything Boers or Berstein says. First of all, neither one of them (especially Bernstein) are ever wrong about anything. If you say they're wrong, you'll get ridiculed before they hang up on you. Then Terry Boers admits that a lot of times he doesn't even watch the games. Both of them are idiots. BUT they are very entertaining. They remind me of Beavis and Butthead... two asshats that are there just to make me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 08:36 PM) I don't really put a lot into anything Boers or Berstein says. First of all, neither one of them (especially Bernstein) are ever wrong about anything. If you say they're wrong, you'll get ridiculed before they hang up on you. Then Terry Boers admits that a lot of times he doesn't even watch the games. Both of them are idiots. BUT they are very entertaining. They remind me of Beavis and Butthead... two asshats that are there just to make me laugh. They also have the best sources in Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 If it meant we'd try and dump Teahen, I'd be all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Man, i'm waiting for the first couple of hit pieces on Teahen to come out. If he doesn't turn it around quick, we're going to hear about how Ozzie thinks his attitude doesn't fit in with the makeup of the clubhouse, and he's going to get, "Swishered" out of here. I don't think the book is closed on Mark Teahen. He looked like he was turning a corner before he went down with his injury. I know his defense was terrible, but he's still a good guy, works some of the best at-bats out of anyone on the team, and is still a hell of a lot better then Chris Getz and Josh Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) Man, i'm waiting for the first couple of hit pieces on Teahen to come out. If he doesn't turn it around quick, we're going to hear about how Ozzie thinks his attitude doesn't fit in with the makeup of the clubhouse, and he's going to get, "Swishered" out of here. I don't think the book is closed on Mark Teahen. He looked like he was turning a corner before he went down with his injury. I know his defense was terrible, but he's still a good guy, works some of the best at-bats out of anyone on the team, and is still a hell of a lot better then Chris Getz and Josh Fields. I greatly enjoy him as a person, but man his defense is killing me when Morel is apparently studly on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Anyone hear what Boers said about Lowell? Basically said there's no doubt in the industry he used performance enhancers. Their show is the only sports talk show I will listen to, that said, they throw out a lot of crap without anything to back it up. Bernstein is especially guilty of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 01:23 PM) Just got promoted to AAA, BTW. Not to mention he only went back there to be a starter/stretch out his arm. He had nothing to prove in AA from last season. In fact.. I think the sox should put him back to a relief pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 10:19 PM) Their show is the only sports talk show I will listen to, that said, they throw out a lot of crap without anything to back it up. Bernstein is especially guilty of it. I've only flat out heard them say that a player was only good cause of the juice twice now..Lowell and Carlos Pena. BTW, I heard that their source for White Sox related stuff in the past has been Rick Hahn or a family member of his. Edited June 2, 2010 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 05:22 PM) I've only flat out heard them say that a player was only good cause of the juice twice now..Lowell and Carlos Pena Carlos Pena? Seriously? That makes very little sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 05:15 PM) I greatly enjoy him as a person, but man his defense is killing me when Morel is apparently studly on defense. I'm not trying to forgive him for being awful on D, but I keep coming back to this...he's been much, much, much worse on D than he's been his last stints at 3b. He's been worse there than he was as a rookie, and he's been approaching average over the last few years. Until this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) Carlos Pena? Seriously? That makes very little sense to me. I know, he was going on and on about how he heard he's on PEDs about a month ago...it was a Friday before we played at KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) Carlos Pena? Seriously? That makes very little sense to me. Hawk's stories about Carlos Pena are hilarious. How when he'd watch him take BP back in his Detroit days the ball just didn't jump off his bat at all and it's the main reason he couldn't stick in the majors, so he disappears for a while, bouncing around the league and minors and resurrects his career in Tampa with new found life in his bat, now the ball explodes off the bat. He basically described your typical roider probably without even knowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 If this is even considered I'd give up on Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 It may be a way to dump Linebrink. It's the only way this could make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 QUOTE (shakes @ Jun 2, 2010 -> 06:23 PM) It may be a way to dump Linebrink. It's the only way this could make sense. Linebrink is actually worse because we still have to pay him next year and he has a full NTC. When it comes to bad deals with 1+ year remaining though, most of them are much more expensive than Linebrink and are even worse, like Oliver Perez and Carlos Silva (despite his start this year, which is bound to end in flames). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Chuck Garfien has tweeted and said on sport nite that from a MLB source he knows White Sox are not interested in Lowell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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