Harry Chappas Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I think that this can go back to how unprepared this team is in spring training. Guys getting shelled becasue they are working on one pitch and hitters not playing on a regular basis. This team has not been ready to go in the last 4 years. They are the baseball version of Camp Lovie...no desire to do anything other than get out there. Remember a couple of years back when Uribe broke up a double play and you would think the Sox won the pennant. The lifelessness of this team is amazing. Guillen is a shell of his former self......oh and when he is gone we get Joey Cora.......rejoice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 07:18 PM) So emotional, this group. Deep breaths. I've actually been amazingly surprised at how well we've handled this terrible season on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Yes, without a doubt. There's really not much to be excited about regarding the future of this team over the next 2-3 years. Completely agree. I mean, coming into the season we had Beckham to look forward to. But it's June 6th, and he's still clueless at the plate. And we all know how much our farm system sucks. We have no legit talent down there who can come up and provide for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:18 PM) Hawk will never rip Ozzie, but even he can't believe the power hitters don't get a 3-0 green light. GMAFB. How thrilled were we last night when AJ grounded out softly with 3-0? How many 3-0 groundouts do we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) Really? You think part of the problem with these guys is not being sufficiently aggressive? This is exactly right. We refuse to work counts and are far too agressive. The approach at the plate needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 08:19 PM) Completely agree. I mean, coming into the season we had Beckham to look forward to. But it's June 6th, and he's still clueless at the plate. And we all know how much our farm system sucks. We have no legit talent down there who can come up and provide for this team. And two of the 5 potential difference-making prospects suffered horrible injuries this season costing them an entire year of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:03 PM) Who's brilliant idea was it to put the hockey and basketball games on at the same time tonight? Who cares about the WNBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) And two of the 5 potential difference-making prospects suffered horrible injuries this season costing them an entire year of development. Don't forget Phegley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 If we fire Ozzie any time soon, just let Hawk manage the team for s***s and giggles. He has been the GM, might as well let him manage before his career is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:18 PM) Hawk will never rip Ozzie, but even he can't believe the power hitters don't get a 3-0 green light. Swinging at 3-0 is up there with bunting on 3-2 as the stupidest thing a hitter can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 08:19 PM) GMAFB. How thrilled were we last night when AJ grounded out softly with 3-0? How many 3-0 groundouts do we need? It's not the likes of AJP that should be getting the 3-0 green light. More like Konerko/Quentin/Rios/Jones. Instead, we get Nix, AJP, and Kotsay getting the green light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) GMAFB. How thrilled were we last night when AJ grounded out softly with 3-0? How many 3-0 groundouts do we need? How many meat 88 MPH fastballs have we seen guys take right down the middle than hit a little grounder 3-1 on a slider? The current philosophy isn't working, if you haven't noticed? Also AJ isnt exactly a power hitter. Edited June 6, 2010 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) I'm still all for the idea of the fans running the team. With the technology these days, it wouldn't be hard to make some kind of democratic vote for lineups, pitching changes, pinch runners/hitters, all that. And I am 100% sure we'd do a better job running the team than Oz. I say that in all seriousness. That is absolutely the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Do you realize how stupid the general public is as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) Who cares about the WNBA? I can't even find a creative response to this. You're comparing Lakers/Celtics to the WNBA? I can understand why you'd prefer the Hockey game, but don't begrudge those of us who'd like to watch the basketball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) I've actually been amazingly surprised at how well we've handled this terrible season on this board. Why, because people haven't jumped off a bridge yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) GMAFB. How thrilled were we last night when AJ grounded out softly with 3-0? How many 3-0 groundouts do we need? It wasn't 3-0 I actually think the potential is there. This team just looks unprepared or does not care to give any effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) That is absolutely the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Do you realize how stupid the general public is as a whole? I second this notion. Tito, what on earth is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) Why, because people haven't jumped off a bridge yet? The conversation has remained more about substance for the most part than people saying how they'll never watch a game again, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) It's not the likes of AJP that should be getting the 3-0 green light. More like Konerko/Quentin/Rios/Jones. Instead, we get Nix, AJP, and Kotsay getting the green light. I don't give a damn who the player is. You take on 3-0 EVERY SINGLE TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) I can't even find a creative response to this. You're comparing Lakers/Celtics to the WNBA? I can understand why you'd prefer the Hockey game, but don't begrudge those of us who'd like to watch the basketball game. I've enjoyed the NBA playoffs this year. If the Hawks weren't in the Stanley Cup, I wouldn't watch a second of hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) How many meat 88 MPH fastballs have we seen guys take right down the middle than hit a little grounder 3-1 on a slider? The current philosophy isn't working, if you haven't noticed? Also AJ isnt exactly a power hitter. You and Fathom are just parroting the exact conversation Stone and Hawk had last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Really? You think part of the problem with these guys is not b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 08:23 PM) I don't give a damn who the player is. You take on 3-0 EVERY SINGLE TIME. Why, so you can draw a walk? I'd prefer a hit with the chances of an extra base hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2010 -> 02:22 PM) The conversation has remained more about substance for the most part than people saying how they'll never watch a game again, etc. The conversations have been b****ing and crying and moaning like pregnant women, as I have stated repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Carlos has raised his hands somewhat back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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