flavum Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 He'll make it to Tuesday with the team. He'll accept a trade after his 10/5 kicks in. And he will get traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I think he'll be traded after the Cubs game on Sunday as well, and the return will be better than we think cause we'll pay a lot of his remaining deal to cash-starved but prospect-rich Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 09:14 PM) Not in the lineup today... Â Probably not a big deal, as we have a day game tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Here's what I'm unclear about: okay, so he's a goner because who doesn't want a good catcher, etc.? Â What exactly would we get in return for him that would make it worthwhile getting rid of him? Or is it really only just to dump him before the 5/10 kicks in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 04:18 PM) Probably not a big deal, as we have a day game tomorrow. Â But he was also seen at a Mayflower moving facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 04:23 PM) Here's what I'm unclear about: okay, so he's a goner because who doesn't want a good catcher, etc.? What exactly would we get in return for him that would make it worthwhile getting rid of him? Or is it really only just to dump him before the 5/10 kicks in?  We have Tyler Flowers to consider, ide like to see what we have in him.. if you can get something for AJ, you should do it.. especially in a down year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 05:23 PM) Here's what I'm unclear about: okay, so he's a goner because who doesn't want a good catcher, etc.? What exactly would we get in return for him that would make it worthwhile getting rid of him? Or is it really only just to dump him before the 5/10 kicks in? If nothing else...we'd be hoping to get a team to pick up the remaining $4 million on his contract.  If we're smart about it, we might target some lower level guys or some guy who is blocked somewhere, and thus get a guy who in 2-3 years looks like a steal. We're not going to get anyone MLB-ready and top flight.  If we're throwing in the towel for this season, and possibly cutting salary for next season, then it makes zero sense to waste $4 million on paying AJ for the rest of the season, when Flowers or Lucy could come up for next to nothing and have it not cost them arbitration years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (T R U @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) We have Tyler Flowers to consider, ide like to see what we have in him.. if you can get something for AJ, you should do it.. especially in a down year.. Tyler Flowers will make everyone miss AJ. I'd re-sign AJ and try to con some team into trading for Flowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 09:36 PM) Tyler Flowers will make everyone miss AJ. I'd re-sign AJ and try to con some team into trading for Flowers. Â I'm not a fan of Flowers, but I feel like AJP went from underrated to overrated on this board. He really doesn't do anything good these days. Flowers will strike out a ton, but he'll put up possibly a better OBP than AJP and a higher slugging. Those are two things this team needs...not just a bunch of 2 out, no on singles. Flowers isn't great defensively, but neither is AJP. What's the worst that's going to happen, teams will continue to run at will against the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 AJ is great to have around when the team is winning. When the team blows then he adds nothing as he seems to go through the motions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 If he was going to have a chance to rebound anywhere, it'd probably be in Texas in that ballpark, so that's what I'm hoping for. Â I hope we can trade him for a decent prospect or 2, but my guess is he'll still be around on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 AJ for Salty + A ball pitcher.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 05:05 PM) AJ for Salty + A ball pitcher.... That would be bonerrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 05:05 PM) AJ for Salty + A ball pitcher.... Â That's what I'm thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 04:52 PM) AJ is great to have around when the team is winning. When the team blows then he adds nothing as he seems to go through the motions. Â What guys are great to have around when the team blows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 11:42 PM) What guys are great to have around when the team blows? Â JAVY VAZQUEZ and Kaz Tadano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 If AJ is traded now is Flowers even the guy who is brought up? Sounds like they liked Lucy enough while he was here, might as well platoon Lucy and Castro until FLowers figures it out. No need to bring a prospect up who is struggling and set him up for failure. I say give the other two time behind the plate until Flowers comes around and gets on a roll again. Â I will be very interested to see what the return for AJP will be, I am not enamored with a Catcher who cant throw the ball back to the pitcher, not sure how he would fit anywhere else on the diamond, but probably would be an upgrade on our DH production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 05:52 PM) If AJ is traded now is Flowers even the guy who is brought up? Sounds like they liked Lucy enough while he was here, might as well platoon Lucy and Castro until FLowers figures it out. No need to bring a prospect up who is struggling and set him up for failure. I say give the other two time behind the plate until Flowers comes around and gets on a roll again. Â I will be very interested to see what the return for AJP will be, I am not enamored with a Catcher who cant throw the ball back to the pitcher, not sure how he would fit anywhere else on the diamond, but probably would be an upgrade on our DH production. Â No need to rush prospects period, Gordon Beckham is painfully enough to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 06:55 PM) No need to rush prospects period, Gordon Beckham is painfully enough to watch. The good news with Flowers is that he can be brought up now without it costing him a year of arbitration time, and if he's going to struggle in the big leagues, we can get those struggles out of the way now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I think that we need to keep him, he's consistently one of the best catchers in the bigs, there's only a few guys who I'd rather have behind the plate than AJ, the short list is Mauer, McCann, Martin, and Yadier Molina are the only ones i can think of who can give you close to a 300 avg and 10+ hr a year while handling the pitching staff. Â We've been spoiled with AJ and I for one don't want to see him go anywhere. Â The only real hole in his game is holding baserunners, I'll live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 05:51 PM) JAVY VAZQUEZ and Kaz Tadano  Ouch, that's below the belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 At what point does it become time to move on from a 33-year old catcher who is showing signs of decline, can't hold or throw out a baserunner, has an expiring contract, and has a terribe approach at the plate? How about when your team is terrible, has a promising catcher waiting in the wings, and when it looks like you can actually get something for him. Eventually, we're all going to have to move on from the 2005 Good Feelings tour. Now, is as good a time as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 This season can't end fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I posted a similar comment a few days ago, in another thread, but I'll repeat it here. Why not package A.J. and a reliever, perhaps Jenks and trade for Chris Davis? He has the potential to be the left handed power hitter this team is missing. He's blocked by Smoak, and has struggled lately, after a pretty impressive season in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) I posted a similar comment a few days ago, in another thread, but I'll repeat it here. Why not package A.J. and a reliever, perhaps Jenks and trade for Chris Davis? He has the potential to be the left handed power hitter this team is missing. He's blocked by Smoak, and has struggled lately, after a pretty impressive season in 2008. Because the Rangers are in bankruptcy right now, and that deal as proposed is asking them to take on about $9+ million in salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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