sin city sox fan Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Don't look now...but we've won 4 in a row and moved to within 7.5 games of the division lead. The rest of the month is filled with very winnable series....Pittsburgh, Washington, the Cubs again, and the Royals. Only tough series should be Atlanta....which is at home. If we go 11-5 in these 16 games, we are over .500 at 39-38 and likely no more than 5 games out of the lead. Lets keep up the strong starting pitching, turn up the bats a little more, and finish the month strong. If we go 11-5 (or better) during the remaining stretch, we'll be looking good and the division title will be ours for the taking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Eric Byrnes' slow-pitch, beer-league softball team could probably take a series from the Cubs. Don't read too much into this. This is still the team that can't beat the Indians, this is still the team that's 7.5 games back on June 12 of a team that's better then us. While we're playing the Pirates, Nats, Cubs and Royals, the Twins get to face the Rockies, Phillies, Brewers, and Mets. There’s no guarantee that when we play well, they’re going to fade away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yea, I said exactly this somewhere in the last month. They have to have a kick ass June, and so far it's not bad. It would give them a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Anything is possible, but June is a do or die month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have a very bad feeling were gonna get screwed for the future with this easy stretch in the schedule.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (T R U @ Jun 12, 2010 -> 09:56 PM) I have a very bad feeling were gonna get screwed for the future with this easy stretch in the schedule.. Like what happened in late August last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 If JFP and Mark can pitch all season like they did this weekend, then yeah, we might have a chance to compete in the division. Then again, they faced an awful NL lineup, and Silva had already been 8-0 vs the lesser htting league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 This might sound dumb because baseball is a long grind, but doesn't it seem like the Sox are playing playoff intensity baseball against the Cub? And guess what? We play well and win. Do the Sox play "hard" every night, especially against the lowlife Indians and Royals? I'm just wondering if the nights we sleepwalk and suck has something to do with mental frame of mind. Or is it just that we are a mediocre team? I hate to use the "playing hard" analogy but to me it seems these Cub games have been intense and we've played well as a result. Is playing hard a misnomer or only appropriate to football and basketball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (T R U @ Jun 12, 2010 -> 09:56 PM) I have a very bad feeling were gonna get screwed for the future with this easy stretch in the schedule.. Screwed for the future? I've read this several times on this board, and I don't understand. Sure there are some who have a fantasy that the White Sox be in a perpetual state of rebuilding, but if they can get hot, why is that bad? Do you really think they have a lot of moveable parts that command top prospects right now? I'm pretty sure they are an average at best team, but dumping guys for what probably would be Jon Adkins-like prospects isn't exactly destroying the future. In fact, if players perform closer to their career totals, the bounty trading them later may be bigger. Jake Peavy, Mark Buehrle, AJP anybody, they go on a hot streak how does it hurt their value? Its not like its now or never to trade guys. Even AJ. He's talking the talk, but he'll go if the Sox are out of it and the new team is in it, especially if they throw in an extension, which is very negotiable. Edited June 13, 2010 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 This might sound dumb because baseball is a long grind, but doesn't it seem like the Sox are playing playoff intensity baseball against the Cub? And guess what? We play well and win. Do the Sox play "hard" every night, especially against the lowlife Indians and Royals? I'm just wondering if the nights we sleepwalk and suck has something to do with mental frame of mind. Or is it just that we are a mediocre team? I hate to use the "playing hard" analogy but to me it seems these Cub games have been intense and we've played well as a result. Is playing hard a misnomer or only appropriate to football and basketball? Greg, I posed this similar type of question regarding attitude in the June Feasting thread I originated. Look as an example at the Twinkies. They really don't have any real All Star players apart from Morneau and Mauer. Their starting 5 pitching rotation is ok at best but they come to play every game and execute. It could be that but it makes for a really good debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 01:49 AM) This might sound dumb because baseball is a long grind, but doesn't it seem like the Sox are playing playoff intensity baseball against the Cub? And guess what? We play well and win. Do the Sox play "hard" every night, especially against the lowlife Indians and Royals? I'm just wondering if the nights we sleepwalk and suck has something to do with mental frame of mind. Or is it just that we are a mediocre team? I hate to use the "playing hard" analogy but to me it seems these Cub games have been intense and we've played well as a result. Is playing hard a misnomer or only appropriate to football and basketball? When you are winning, everything looks and appears better,even the effort. If the Sox lost yesterday 3-2 instead of won 2-1, some more heads would have been called for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 04:56 AM) Screwed for the future? I've read this several times on this board, and I don't understand. Sure there are some who have a fantasy that the White Sox be in a perpetual state of rebuilding, but if they can get hot, why is that bad? Do you really think they have a lot of moveable parts that command top prospects right now? PK would likely bring a couple of solid prospects in return, not to mention a significant amount of salary relief. Thornton would also command something of value and, heck, they might even get something out of Putz as well. So, yeah, it's a fair question. Thankfully, it's still mid-June and the Sox can afford to take a wait-and-see approach while these guys inflate their numbers against bad NL teams. Edited June 13, 2010 by WCSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) So if we win every series and maybe sweep one in the next 16, we'll be good? Edited June 13, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jun 12, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) Don't look now...but we've won 4 in a row and moved to within 7.5 games of the division lead. The rest of the month is filled with very winnable series....Pittsburgh, Washington, the Cubs again, and the Royals. Only tough series should be Atlanta....which is at home. If we go 11-5 in these 16 games, we are over .500 at 39-38 and likely no more than 5 games out of the lead. Lets keep up the strong starting pitching, turn up the bats a little more, and finish the month strong. If we go 11-5 (or better) during the remaining stretch, we'll be looking good and the division title will be ours for the taking! I agree with you that they have an opportunity to play their way to .500, but I just don't believe they will continue on a winning clip. That lineup is still very bad, and most of the rotation has been awful as well to this point. While I do think we'll see improved performances from the rotation, when you're depending on guys like Kotsay, Pierre, Jones, and have struggling younger guys (Quentin and Beckham), it's hard to get optimistic that this offense will be anything more than mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 12, 2010 -> 09:34 PM) Eric Byrnes' slow-pitch, beer-league softball team could probably take a series from the Cubs. Don't read too much into this. This is still the team that can't beat the Indians, this is still the team that's 7.5 games back on June 12 of a team that's better then us. While we're playing the Pirates, Nats, Cubs and Royals, the Twins get to face the Rockies, Phillies, Brewers, and Mets. There’s no guarantee that when we play well, they’re going to fade away. Agreed with your analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 01:49 AM) This might sound dumb because baseball is a long grind, but doesn't it seem like the Sox are playing playoff intensity baseball against the Cub? And guess what? We play well and win. Do the Sox play "hard" every night, especially against the lowlife Indians and Royals? I'm just wondering if the nights we sleepwalk and suck has something to do with mental frame of mind. Or is it just that we are a mediocre team? I hate to use the "playing hard" analogy but to me it seems these Cub games have been intense and we've played well as a result. Is playing hard a misnomer or only appropriate to football and basketball? I wouldn't take that much from this series. I think they are playing hard, but there's just not enough good players in this lineup. That will have it's impact on the club in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 All I know is that if Q and Bacon can put up good 2nd half numbers and the starting pitching gets stronger and the rest of the team remains status quo we just might make a run and draw crowds. Giving up on the team means giving up revenue despite all we hear about getting younger and trading away productive pieces. Getting younger at this point in time means getting worse and I like our chances better relying on current players to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Is this the official "are you in?" thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Let's see if Gavin mans up today and mows down some weak NL garbage. Maybe the NL is just what this team needs to gain the necessary confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdiego Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 01:49 AM) This might sound dumb because baseball is a long grind, but doesn't it seem like the Sox are playing playoff intensity baseball against the Cub? And guess what? We play well and win. Do the Sox play "hard" every night, especially against the lowlife Indians and Royals? I'm just wondering if the nights we sleepwalk and suck has something to do with mental frame of mind. Or is it just that we are a mediocre team? I hate to use the "playing hard" analogy but to me it seems these Cub games have been intense and we've played well as a result. Is playing hard a misnomer or only appropriate to football and basketball? Unlike a few yrs ago, he no longer is able to motivate them against "inferior" teams. Possibly the players getting tired of & tunning out Ozzie. Maybe they're getting distracted from the off the field drama this season. All the more reasons to fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 They really needed a good homestand and they didnt' get itl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 of course, this is what I want. To push up to around .500 and float around there being vaguely competitive only to lose the division by 8-10 games but be able to say we had another winning record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) of course, this is what I want. To push up to around .500 and float around there being vaguely competitive only to lose the division by 8-10 games but be able to say we had another winning record. I have a sick feeling that we're going to do just this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) of course, this is what I want. To push up to around .500 and float around there being vaguely competitive only to lose the division by 8-10 games but be able to say we had another winning record. If this team got to .500, that would mean that they finished the season 9 games above .500 after June 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 If we get to .500 and get even closer to Minny. . I wonder if KW will go hard after Fielder? I know it sounds outragous right now- but the SP has been promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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