Vance Law Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) He's batting .300 with a 1.013 OPS with runners in scoring position. He has sucked, but also, he has kind of not sucked. Edited June 17, 2010 by Vance Law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 He has 2 more RBI's than Rios, yet Rios is hitting 100+ points higher haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 It matters a lot. His OBP is only flirting with .300 when we were counting on it being a lot closer to .400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jun 16, 2010 -> 10:52 PM) He's batting .286 with a .995 OPS with runners in scoring position. And he improved that tonight. He has sucked, but also, he has kind of not sucked. I am sure someone smarter than me will explain that he is changing his approach with ducks on the pond. I also will venture to speculate that he might inch closer to the plate with runners in scoring positon because he figures there will be less of a chance of getting plunked. But if you figure in his defensive play none of this matters because his ass should already be on the DL or a two seater bound for Charlotte. Edited June 17, 2010 by GREEDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Well... you can say he sucks, but at least he makes his opportunities count... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Just when you think he and/or Beckham are going to break loose they go back to s*** like Gordon did tonight. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Quentin just double off the big wall in Pittsburgh in RF, but I noticed something about his swing. Now I am no hitting expert, but I do pride myself in understanding mechanics and fundamentals. Quentin swings looks excessively long. The reason being when he swings he doesnt seem to throw his hands at the ball, something that produces short quick movement to get the head of the bat on the ball. Instead Quentin seems to dip his hands down, like a hitch, the head of the bat drops down, and then he sort of wraps the bat out and around his body. This makes a much longer, slower swing. Thats my evaluation of Quentin's hitting suck-age to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 That's a hard .206 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Speaking of RISP splits . . . Alex Rios had really been struggling with runners in scoring position this season but has turned it on of late (these things tend to even out) and when I checked his numbers today I was surprised to see just how affective he's been given his early struggles: RISP: .302/.397/.491/.887 63 PA 2 out, RISP: .400/.464/.680/1.144 28 PA Men on: .294/.384/.553/.937 99 PA Close&Late: .333/.405/.606/1.011 37 PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Carlos Quentin is one of the most interesting players in baseball... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Maybe he should have taken the "early money" like Floyd instead of hopes of having a big payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 .314 with a 1.049 OPS now with RISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 He's not a very good fielder (unless there are defensive metrics that prove me wrong) and has an OPS barely above .700 and an OBP barely above .300. So yes, it does matter he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 18, 2010 -> 01:14 PM) He's not a very good fielder (unless there are defensive metrics that prove me wrong) and has an OPS barely above .700 and an OBP barely above .300. So yes, it does matter he sucks. Try the polar opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 17, 2010 -> 07:17 PM) Carlos Quentin is one of the most interesting players in baseball... I hear that Dos Equis guy is his uncle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 It matters that he sucks. There was some discussion a while back about the fact that Quentin was on pace for 93 RBIs while batting barely .200. That is a hard .200, and he's making it count. But imagine if he was batting .260 and had another 5 or 6 HRs and another 8-10 RBIs. I see the point though regarding his good hitting with RISP. But overall, yeah, he's not doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 16, 2010 -> 11:44 PM) Just when you think he and/or Beckham are going to break loose they go back to s*** like Gordon did tonight. Weird. Becks ripped one last night. Why you sippin' on haterade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Thats like me asking myself "Does it matter that I lost my job this year?".....I have made a good percentage of profit on my lemonade stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jun 18, 2010 -> 01:29 PM) Thats like me asking myself "Does it matter that I lost my job this year?".....I have made a good percentage of profit on my lemonade stand. Did you really lose your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 I didn't start the thread with the intent of making the point that everything is fine with Quentin even though he has a .700 OPS while MLB average for a RF is like .800. Overall he has sucked. But point being there are varying levels and degrees of sucking. And if you're only getting x number of hits, managing to get them in situations that count definitely tempers the magnitude of his sucking. If a guy bats .200 for the whole year but bats .500 with RISP and drives in 120 runs, that's extremely productive and it kinda doesn't matter that he hit .200. Obviously that extreme example is never going to happen. Mainly, I just found it interesting how markedly better his splits have been with runners on, and even more so with runners in scoring position. Either way, the jackass should start hitting all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I like your final point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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