Kalapse Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 05:53 PM) I want to move Beckham to Charlotte, not to SS. Today's suggested move: Viciedo to starting at 3b, Vizquel to 2b, beckham to Charlotte. Viciedo's going to be lucky to get a game a week ahead of Vizquel if Omar only has 3b to play at, and hell, Vizquel's outhitting Beckham by a lot lately. Plus, calling up Viciedo and benching him is as stupid of a move as you could possibly come up with. One of the main reasons for calling up Viciedo was to give Vizquel significant rest. He's playing WAY too much right now, the guy is 43 and not physically capable of playing everyday. He was brought in here to be a part time player and that's the role he'll find himself in very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 lets hope Peavy feels alright after going the distance but you gotta respect the guy, sore shoulder and all, but he goes out and gives everything he's got. You can see while throwing the last few pitches and walking off the mound, his face is grimacing a bit. but i am glad that he's able to finish up what he started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 06:56 PM) One of the main reasons for calling up Viciedo was to give Vizquel significant rest. He's playing WAY too much right now, the guy is 43 and not physically capable of playing everyday. He was brought in here to be a part time player and that's the role he'll find himself in very soon. Repeat that to me later this week when our manager has benched Vicideo 6 games out of 7 to keep Vizquel in the 2 hole. Really Kal, you know the reality as much as I do. The only way Ozzie is resting Vizquel right now is if Herm Schneider tells him to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 11:51 PM) Dude, just shut up (and I say that respectfully) and enjoy the run. True. But his defense is to a degree offsetting his mediocre offense. Anybody who wants to move Beckham to SS needs a serious reality check. I am. There's no reason our starting pitching should have ever been worst in the AL. But it was. Our offense, yes I could've guessed that. BUt the point stands - in 2001 we had a 22-7 run to roar us back to .500 and over. This is the wonderful part about being in the AL, june can serve as a downhill slope in a marathon. Hopefully it can slingshot us forward. I think an offensive addition at this point (ala 2003 - except get actual good offensive players) could really pick the team up. I'd rather not just say "see, we're fixed, this is how we were supposed to play." I think I'm getting hang of this. You'll know what to do with your AL team after June. If they couldn't do anything during interleague to pick themselves up (if previously struggling), you are f***ed. Unload, play for draft, bring up your young'ens. If you succeed against the weak NL, then diagnose what is still plaguing them during those times and try to fix it. So yes, our pitching (strength) is back. Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) lets hope Peavy feels alright after going the distance but you gotta respect the guy, sore shoulder and all, but he goes out and gives everything he's got. You can see while throwing the last few pitches and walking off the mound, his face is grimacing a bit. but i am glad that he's able to finish up what he started. I think he was just pissed about walking a guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 06:58 PM) So yes, our pitching (strength) is back. Now what? Fix Quentin and Beckham and you've got a shot. Or replace Beckham with Viciedo somehow. Adding a DH would be nice, but it's not going to help if Quentin hits like Kotsay the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 11:59 PM) Fix Quentin and Beckham and you've got a shot. Or replace Beckham with Viciedo somehow. Adding a DH would be nice, but it's not going to help if Quentin hits like Kotsay the rest of the year. no, that's the exact opposite of what will help. These guys might pull it together, might not, it's 2.5 months in, this team is probably going to be pretty similar to what you'll get. Fix it now, or hold a press conference and say "we are comfortable putting together .500 teams." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 07:01 PM) no, that's the exact opposite of what will help. These guys might pull it together, might not, it's 2.5 months in, this team is probably going to be pretty similar to what you'll get. Fix it now, or hold a press conference and say "we are comfortable putting together .500 teams." Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) I am. There's no reason our starting pitching should have ever been worst in the AL. But it was. Our offense, yes I could've guessed that. BUt the point stands - in 2001 we had a 22-7 run to roar us back to .500 and over. This is the wonderful part about being in the AL, june can serve as a downhill slope in a marathon. Hopefully it can slingshot us forward. I think an offensive addition at this point (ala 2003 - except get actual good offensive players) could really pick the team up. I'd rather not just say "see, we're fixed, this is how we were supposed to play." I think I'm getting hang of this. You'll know what to do with your AL team after June. If they couldn't do anything during interleague to pick themselves up (if previously struggling), you are f***ed. Unload, play for draft, bring up your young'ens. If you succeed against the weak NL, then diagnose what is still plaguing them during those times and try to fix it. So yes, our pitching (strength) is back. Now what? I understand the skepticism. I'm certainly not elevating this team as one of the top teams in the AL. Not yet. But just a couple weeks ago it looked like 2007 all over again. We're playing meaningful baseball again. That feels pretty f***ing good. The pitching is finally dominating like expected. Offense is still a major question mark. Will see what happens. All I know is we have the most aggressive, and most importantly, ballsy GM in baseball. If this team continues to play well, he'll bring in some offense. No doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 f***ing Phillies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 11:02 PM) Huh? You want to just continue to wait for players to perform. I've seen this song and dance for the past decade. I'd like to see them try and get passed win 82 and go for 90 more proactively than "we'll, these players will turn it around" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) I understand the skepticism. I'm certainly not elevating this team as one of the top teams in the AL. Not yet. But just a couple weeks ago it looked like 2007 all over again. We're playing meaningful baseball again. That feels pretty f***ing good. The pitching is finally dominating like expected. Offense is still a major question mark. Will see what happens. All I know is we have the most aggressive, and most importantly, ballsy GM in baseball. If this team continues to play well, he'll bring in some offense. No doubt in my mind. Well, as I said in the other winner thread, the difference in 2007 and our other winning-but-not playoff years, was interleague. We played awful in interleague that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 07:11 PM) You want to just continue to wait for players to perform. I've seen this song and dance for the past decade. I'd like to see them try and get passed win 82 and go for 90 more proactively than "we'll, these players will turn it around" So, you're ready to replace Quentin and trade Beckham to bring in his replacement? Unless you're ready to do that, then you're protecting the same song and dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Wow, Eric Karros is a horrible announcer. He really sounds like he wants the Twins to win this game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Well then. So much for pulling within 4.5 of the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 07:28 PM) Well then. So much for pulling within 4.5 of the Twins. Bah, I'm going to worry about the Sox winning games for now. It needs to get a lot closer before I can genuinely start caring about the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 06:28 PM) Well then. So much for pulling within 4.5 of the Twins. Yeah it sucks. But we probably still would've been 5 behind the Tigers. This is the type of game that'll turn the Twins around though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 05:59 PM) Fix Quentin and Beckham and you've got a shot. Or replace Beckham with Viciedo somehow. Adding a DH would be nice, but it's not going to help if Quentin hits like Kotsay the rest of the year. put Dayan at 3rd and omar at 2b...I'm loving Omar in the 2 hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 ROSS f***ING GLOAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Good ol' Ross Gload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 still a chance for 4.5 Gload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 19, 2010 -> 06:40 PM) put Dayan at 3rd and omar at 2b...I'm loving Omar in the 2 hole Defense is important. Put Dayan at DH, leave Vizquel at 3B and put Lillibridge at 2B while Beckham gets his s*** together in Charlotte. Should've kept Nix at 2B and sent Beckham down for a couple of weeks but that ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Dear Jake: Please have more fluid in your shoulder. Signed, A Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Peavy had 7 K's today. 6 of those 7 were strikeouts looking..... http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_...ame_pk%3D264825 Talk about acing them on the corners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 undoubtedly the new banner has contributed to the momentum the Sox have right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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