witesoxfan Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 MLB SS's splits - .262/.320/.371/.691 AL SS's splits - .259/.316/.360/.676 Alexei Ramirez - .262/.294/.393/.688 He looks like an average shortstop offensively to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:34 AM) MLB SS's splits - .262/.320/.371/.691 AL SS's splits - .259/.316/.360/.676 Alexei Ramirez - .262/.294/.393/.688 He looks like an average shortstop offensively to me. Nice. Where do you find those splits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:39 AM) Nice. Where do you find those splits? B-R is amazing. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...L&year=2010 http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...B&year=2010 what's even better, that I'd never noticed before, was if you click on the position itself ("as SS"), it lists the teams in order of offensive production. Only 3 teams have a SS with an OPS over .800 - the Rockies, Marlins, and Giants, and only 6 have a SS with an OPS of greater than .750 - the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Yankees join the group. I haven't looked at his WAR, but I would imagine that Alexei Ramirez is the most valuable, or very close to the most valuable, shortstop in the AL right now. EDIT again: I suck. Marco Scutaro, followed by Derek Jeter, followed by Alex Gonzalez. Edited June 23, 2010 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 11:39 AM) Nice. Where do you find those splits? You can get them at ESPN.com, just go to the team stats and sort by position. The issue with them is...they're including everyone who has played SS, including people who have sucked as replacements/bench players. Of course, this does appear to be a down season for SS stats as of now, but here's a different way to look at Alexei's bat so far: Alexei Ramirez has an OPS 20 points lower than Yuniesky Betancourt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:46 AM) You can get them at ESPN.com, just go to the team stats and sort by position. The issue with them is...they're including everyone who has played SS, including people who have sucked as replacements/bench players. Of course, this does appear to be a down season for SS stats as of now, but here's a different way to look at Alexei's bat so far: Alexei Ramirez has an OPS 20 points lower than Yuniesky Betancourt. Check post #22. That's never, ever good when you have a lower anything than Yuniesky. Edited June 23, 2010 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:46 AM) B-R is amazing. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...L&year=2010 http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...B&year=2010 what's even better, that I'd never noticed before, was if you click on the position itself ("as SS"), it lists the teams in order of offensive production. Only 3 teams have a SS with an OPS over .800 - the Rockies, Marlins, and Giants, and only 6 have a SS with an OPS of greater than .750 - the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Yankees join the group. I haven't looked at his WAR, but I would imagine that Alexei Ramirez is the most valuable, or very close to the most valuable, shortstop in the AL right now. EDIT again: I suck. Marco Scutaro, followed by Derek Jeter, followed by Alex Gonzalez. This is true. Thanks for the links. I can't believe I didn't realize baseball reference had these splits. I've been a regular at that site for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 10:46 AM) You can get them at ESPN.com, just go to the team stats and sort by position. The issue with them is...they're including everyone who has played SS, including people who have sucked as replacements/bench players. Of course, this does appear to be a down season for SS stats as of now, but here's a different way to look at Alexei's bat so far: Alexei Ramirez has an OPS 20 points lower than Yuniesky Betancourt. ESPN tends to have some inaccurate stats, especially splits. Stick with baseballreference.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 By the way, this thread title sounds like an 80's grunge metal band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 22, 2010 -> 09:14 PM) Like usual, his bat is heating up with the weather. The pleasant surprise has been his crazy good defense lately. It really shouldn't be a surprise. Last year he made a lot of great plays, had trouble with the easier plays. He's gaining more and more confidence and I think we'll have one or two really good seasons out of him where he's a plus offensive & defensive player (after that, who knows where Ramirez will be playing). If the Sox end up making the postseason and finishing strong, he'll be a big reason why, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 They posted a pic of his finger online: http://5z8.info/back-to-africa_j6i9w_anima...train-accidents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Alexei is in the lineup tonight. Looks like I won't see Dayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 23, 2010 -> 06:57 AM) Someone just needs to pull his finger. But only if you pay for his carbon credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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