Sox vs Cubs 6-25 game thread 3:05 first pitch

[chw42]

Why can't A.J. hit 6th?

[iamshack]

It has been a fun ride, but it will end. It always does. When that happens, the hole in the DH slot needs to get better in order to maintain a normal competitive pace and have a shot at the end of the season. Not necessarily being negative as much as grounded and realistic. No matter how invincible they look, no team can keep up a pace like this for an extended stretch of the season.

Really?

 

I understand that.

 

And I am not a person that says you can only point out flaws when the problem is actually costing you. But some of you guys need to enjoy it a bit! When the only comments some make are negative, I just think they are sadistic bastards who enjoy pain...

 

The position will be addressed in the best way possible. I think we all know that, given the body of work Kenny has put together over the course of the last decade.

 

In the meantime, let's keep scratching out wins any way we can.

[iamshack]

Why can't A.J. hit 6th?

AJ is seriously one of the dumbest hitters I have ever watched play baseball.

[NorthSideSox72]

Seriously, the team has won 9 f***ing games in a row and 13 of 14.

 

Are you ever positive, Sqwert?

In this case, I agree with him. Kotsay is being way, way, way overused by Ozzie. I'd rather see Jones in there anyway, but even better would be an actually good hitter.

 

[iamshack]

In this case, I agree with him. Kotsay is being way, way, way overused by Ozzie. I'd rather see Jones in there anyway, but even better would be an actually good hitter.

I'm not complaining about the point Sqwert made.

 

I'm encouraging him to relax and be happy...

 

It will be addressed.

 

And honestly, Jones has been absolutely atrocious lately...Kotsay has at least gotten hits in the month of June.

[chw42]

AJ is seriously one of the dumbest hitters I have ever watched play baseball.

 

I'd take him over Kotsay at this point though.

[iamshack]

I'd take him over Kotsay at this point though.

I'd rather have Kotsay up with runners on than AJ.

 

AJ just seems to come up with absolutely no intention or care about situational hitting in the least.

 

I can't stand that.

[Wanne]

Getting pumped already for today's game. I've watched the replay of Paulie's dinger/Hawk's call yesterday about 5 times and I AM PUMPED!!!

[BigSqwert]

AJ is seriously one of the dumbest hitters I have ever watched play baseball.

Enough of the negativity! We've won 9 straight.

 

EDIT: And regarding the Kotsay comment, are you really saying you're happy with our DH situation? We have a playoff caliber pitching staff with a mediocre at best offense. A major upgrade at DH could make us an upper echelon team. Not sure why you're so content with Kotsay/Jones regardless of this nice 2 week stretch of wins.

Edited June 25, 2010 by BigSqwert

[Kalapse]

Really?

 

I understand that.

 

And I am not a person that says you can only point out flaws when the problem is actually costing you. But some of you guys need to enjoy it a bit! When the only comments some make are negative, I just think they are sadistic bastards who enjoy pain...

The position will be addressed in the best way possible. I think we all know that, given the body of work Kenny has put together over the course of the last decade.

 

In the meantime, let's keep scratching out wins any way we can.

Given that we actually went into the season with he and Andruw Jones as the starting DH at Ozzie's request and now Ozzie is saying the same things he did in the offseason about us not needing another bat I'm not all that confident we'll see an upgrade. But you seem to have the faith going so I'm sure you'll disagree.

[iamshack]

Given that we actually went into the season with he and Andruw Jones as the starting DH at Ozzie's request and now Ozzie is saying the same things he did in the offseason about us not needing another bat I'm not all that confident we'll see an upgrade. But you seem to have the faith going so I'm sure you'll disagree.

Enough with the "faith" bs, Kal.

 

There is a difference between having faith and having confidence and patience. Don't confuse them.

 

I believe Kenny has learned his lesson and he'll add a bat if a reasonable solution presents itself.

[iamshack]

Enough of the negativity! We've won 9 straight.

 

EDIT: And regarding the Kotsay comment, are you really saying you're happy with our DH situation? We have a playoff caliber pitching staff with a mediocre at best offense. A major upgrade at DH could make us an upper echelon team. Not sure why you're so content with Kotsay/Jones regardless of this nice 2 week stretch of wins.

 

I'm not saying I'm happy with it right now. But do we always have to harp on the negative and ignore all the positives?

 

Neither you nor I can go out and acquire a new DH, so let's enjoy the wins right now. I know we deserve to.

[Pants Rowland]

I'm not saying I'm happy with it right now. But do we always have to harp on the negative and ignore all the positives?

 

Neither you nor I can go out and acquire a new DH, so let's enjoy the wins right now. I know we deserve to.

 

Are you filling in for greg today?

[Kalapse]

Enough with the "faith" bs, Kal.

 

There is a difference between having faith and having confidence and patience. Don't confuse them.

 

I believe Kenny has learned his lesson and he'll add a bat if a reasonable solution presents itself.

I'm going to stick with faith.

[iamshack]

Are you filling in for greg today?

Haha. Touche.

 

I always lean towards the positive side.

 

And maybe I am a bit slower than some here. We've gone from being woefully inept and not a factor to suddenly in this race for the long run in the course of 2 weeks. I guess it's taken me a bit to process the change in mindset from "who do we need to sell off and who do we need to keep around for our core," to "what do we need to do to become a World Series contender" like some of you.

 

I know damn well for as much as I suffered from April to June 8th that I am going to enjoy this run and not worry about things outside of my control for at least the duration of the winning streak.

[iamshack]

I'm going to stick with faith.

If you insist, let me ask you this, has it paid off or not?

 

Which has turned out to be the more reasonable mindset to have thus far this season?

[justBLAZE]

Who's pumped, and many talked about this matchup before the season..

 

Peavy vs Zambrano, both competitors! Things could get hot today!

[BigSqwert]

We will destroy them today. I'm not worried the least bit.

[Kalapse]

If you insist, let me ask you this, has it paid off or not?

 

Which has turned out to be the more reasonable mindset to have thus far this season?

You've been right on, confident that the team would win regardless of matchups and sticking with them when they were 9.5 back because you had tremendous faith in the roster. That's great and I don't really mean it as an insult, that's just the way it feels to me. s***, you've been saying it all year and that's commendable I just look up and down the roster and I don't feel the same way you do. Kenny really let me down in the offseason seemingly giving in to Ozzie's desire to have bad, "versatile" players fill the most offensive oriented spot in the lineup and it's left me a little jaded.

[Kalapse]

Pierre  7/32 w/ 2B, 5BB, 3K (.219)

Vizquel 3/13 w/ 2B, BB, 2K (.231)

Rios    0 PA

Konerko 8/28 w/ 2B, 4HR, 3BB, 6K (.286)

Quentin 0 PA

Kotsay  1/8 w/ BB, 3K (.125)

Pierz   6/20 w/ HR, 3BB, 1K (.300)

Ramirez 3/7 w/ 2HR (.429)

Beckham 2/3 w/ BB

[rowand's rowdies]

I'm gonna go with us getting #10 in a row with a 4-2 victory over the schlubs.

 

Today is a huge game in the sense that it could be a streak killer.

Not just as a well our winning streak is over, but in a "uh oh we really shoulda won that one" way.

 

the cubs are playing horrible baseball, and just flew cross country overnight to play an afternoon game after a 13 inning game in seattle.

 

these are the games you always expect to win easily, but usually lose. wish i had a stat on it, but it seems to happen all the time in general in sports. tired team has some extrodinary odds stacked against them bc of travel, and they win.

 

if the sox lose this one, the cubs will build confidence and rest up and hope they can start a similair streak to ours and turn their season around.

 

just trying to play devils advocate, but if we dont win 2 of 3 this series, its pretty safe to say our hot streak is over. we should sweep them, but in a series like this, you just like to win it.

 

 

[BigSqwert]

Pierre  7/32 w/ 2B, 5BB, 3K (.219)

Vizquel 3/13 w/ 2B, BB, 2K (.231)

Rios    0 PA

Konerko 8/28 w/ 2B, 4HR, 3BB, 6K (.286)

Quentin 0 PA

Kotsay  1/8 w/ BB, 3K (.125)

Pierz   6/20 w/ HR, 3BB, 1K (.300)

Ramirez 3/7 w/ 2HR (.429)

Beckham 2/3 w/ BB

 

More reason to make one smile.

[BigSqwert]

I'm gonna go with us getting #10 in a row with a 4-2 victory over the schlubs.

 

Today is a huge game in the sense that it could be a streak killer.

Not just as a well our winning streak is over, but in a "uh oh we really shoulda won that one" way.

 

the cubs are playing horrible baseball, and just flew cross country overnight to play an afternoon game after a 13 inning game in seattle.

 

these are the games you always expect to win easily, but usually lose. wish i had a stat on it, but it seems to happen all the time in general in sports. tired team has some extrodinary odds stacked against them bc of travel, and they win.

 

if the sox lose this one, the cubs will build confidence and rest up and hope they can start a similair streak to ours and turn their season around.

 

just trying to play devils advocate, but if we dont win 2 of 3 this series, its pretty safe to say our hot streak is over. we should sweep them, but in a series like this, you just like to win it.

 

I don't recall the exact circumstances but didn't the Angels have like no sleep when they played us in game 1 of the '05 ALCS? And no, I'm not saying the '10 Cubs are similar to the '05 Angels but the travel/sleep thing may be overplayed.

[Kalapse]

Career vs Peavy:

Fukudome 4/10 w/ 3 2B, 2BB, 3K

Colvin   1/1 w/ 2B

Byrd     2/5 w/ 2B, K

Lee      3/20 w/ 2 2B, 3BB, 9K (.150)

Ramirez  5/17 w/ 2B, HR, 3K (.294)

Soriano  7/19 3 2B, 3 HR, 2BB, 7K (.368)

Fontenot 0/3 w/ BB, K

Soto     2/4 w/ BB, 2K

Theriot  2/14 w/ Bb, 4K (.143)

[iamshack]

You've been right on, confident that the team would win regardless of matchups and sticking with them when they were 9.5 back because you had tremendous faith in the roster. That's great and I don't really mean it as an insult, that's just the way it feels to me. s***, you've been saying it all year and that's commendable I just look up and down the roster and I don't feel the same way you do. Kenny really let me down in the offseason seemingly giving in to Ozzie's desire to have bad, "versatile" players fill the most offensive oriented spot in the lineup and it's left me a little jaded.

Well, I certainly don't think this is the perfect roster but I feel like from an offensive standpoint, it's good enough to get to where we need to be, which is in the postseason. If we can reach the postseason, with the colder temperatures, I think our starting pitching will have an edge, and I think we could win a lot of games in the same fashion we've been winning them on this streak.

 

Were we in the AL East, not sure I would feel the same way about the roster, but we aren't.

 

All in all, I would have rather we signed Kelly Johnson than Omar Vizquel or brought back Jayson Nix. I would have rather we signed Jim Thome as well. But I guess I don't think those are wrongs that can't be righted mid-season and I have enough faith in Kenny that he will indeed right them.

 

Is this roster ideal? No. But able to be improved? Yes.

 

And all in all, I do like the roster, I do think it's good enough to where if we pitch like we should, we'll be fine with some additional acquisitions before August 31.