fathom Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I can't be the only one that feels like giving up Hudson and/or Flowers for 3 months of Dunn is way too high of a price? Will Dunn be a type A FA though and cheap enough to offer arbitration to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Maybe about 5-10 years ago a half season rental would get you top prospects but that's not really the case anymore. Phillly wouldn't give Drabek, Brown, or Taylor for Halladay last year why should the Sox have to give up their top guys for a less valuable Dunn? I doubt Hudson, Flowers, or Viciedo would be included in a Dunn deal. I could see Morel, Torres and a younger pitcher with high potential being dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 04:25 AM) Maybe about 5-10 years ago a half season rental would get you top prospects but that's not really the case anymore. Phillly wouldn't give Drabek, Brown, or Taylor for Halladay last year why should the Sox have to give up their top guys for a less valuable Dunn? I doubt Hudson, Flowers, or Viciedo would be included in a Dunn deal. I could see Morel, Torres and a younger pitcher with high potential being dealt. Because the Phillies caved and traded Drabek, Brown and Travis d'Arnaud for Halladay? Rob Bryson, Zach Jackson, Matt LaPorta and Michael Brantley for CC Sabathia (7/7/08) (half season rental) Carlos Gonzalez, Greg Smith and Huston Street for Matt Holliday (11/10/08) (full season rental) Brett Wallace, Shane Peterson, Clayton Mortensen for Matt Holliday (7/24/09) (half season then extension) Justin Masterson, Nick Hagadone for Victor Martinez (7/31/09) (half season then extension) Chris Perez and Jess Todd for Mark DeRosa (6/27/09) (half season rental) Matt LaPorta (#1 prospect, MLB:22), Carlos Gonzalez (#1 prospect, MLB:27), Brett Wallace (#2 prospect, MLB:40), Justin Masterson (#4 prospect, 2008, MLB:64), Chris Perez (#3 prospect, MLB:97) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 05:03 AM) I can't be the only one that feels like giving up Hudson and/or Flowers for 3 months of Dunn is way too high of a price? Will Dunn be a type A FA though and cheap enough to offer arbitration to? Yes, Dunn will be a type FA, and yes, he'll be offered arbitration. If he accepts arbitration, his $12 million/1 year salary is low enough that any other team out there needing a 1b/DH will still be happy to trade for him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 08:34 AM) Yes, Dunn will be a type FA, and yes, he'll be offered arbitration. If he accepts arbitration, his $12 million/1 year salary is low enough that any other team out there needing a 1b/DH will still be happy to trade for him next year. Yeah, there's very little question that Adam Dunn will get you 2 draft picks at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Would be cool to see a big bat added right before the Rangers and Angels series. I think it would give the team a huge lift and relieve a little pressure off the starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Buehrle and Flowers for Prince Fielder. Would you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 11:18 AM) Buehrle and Flowers for Prince Fielder. Would you do it? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Danks1 + Danks2 + Viciedo + Santos for Fielder - would you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:28 PM) Danks1 + Danks2 + Viciedo + Santos for Fielder - would you do it? Might be easy for some people to say yes since he just pitched a dud the other day but I want to hold onto D1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Danks1 is not likely to extend when he's a free agent. Hudson would be #5 then shift to #4, while a recently released Zambrano can compete with Freddy for the #5 in 2011. The last part being speculation of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:28 PM) Danks1 + Danks2 + Viciedo + Santos for Fielder - would you do it? Not a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Chase Blackwood for Prince Fielder, would you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:37 PM) Chase Blackwood for Prince Fielder, would you do it? No way, they'd have to throw in Yovani Gallardo to make that deal worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:37 PM) Chase Blackwood for Prince Fielder, would you do it? Well, we could also throw in Jones. Then I think it's a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:37 PM) Chase Blackwood for Prince Fielder, would you do it? You better hope girlslikebaseballtoo#26 doesn’t wander over here from the FutureSox board. I think if she sees this post, she's going to kick you in the nuts. Edited June 29, 2010 by Chet Kincaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:28 PM) Danks1 + Danks2 + Viciedo + Santos for Fielder - would you do it? QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:33 PM) Danks1 is not likely to extend when he's a free agent. Hudson would be #5 then shift to #4, while a recently released Zambrano can compete with Freddy for the #5 in 2011. The last part being speculation of course. I don't give a rat's ass if Danks isn't able to be extended, his value on the open market right now would net ATLEAST 2 premium prospects. He has 2 full years of service beyond this year and, assuming he doesn't fall completely off the face of the earth, he will net draft pick compensation of some form (and it will probably be Type A compensation). As such, trading for Danks right now adds 2 and a half years of full service time PLUS two top 65 draft picks in the 2013 draft. Fielder is good, but trading Danks now virtually destroys any chance the Sox have of making it to the postseason this season. Add to that fact that you would get one more year out of Danks than you would Fielder, and giving up 3 talented young players on top of it makes it asinine. Even if you believe Danks is in the second tier of starting pitchers in the league (and I do...he's not good enough to win a Cy Young any time soon, but he's most definitely good enough to be a #1 on a playoff team and he would make for a fantastic #1b/#2 starter if there is actually another pitcher on whoever's pitching staff that truly is that good), with as much cheap service time as he has left under team control and as good as he is, he's worth a lot on the trade market right now. He's also worth a lot to the White Sox too. Beyond that, I strongly doubt the Cubs have the $36 million on hand that it would take to give Carlos Zambrano his outright release. If anything, the Cubs would have to get creative and eat 2-3 bad contracts from a high payroll team to trade Zambrano, because releasing him doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:10 PM) Beyond that, I strongly doubt the Cubs have the $36 million on hand that it would take to give Carlos Zambrano his outright release. If anything, the Cubs would have to get creative and eat 2-3 bad contracts from a high payroll team to trade Zambrano, because releasing him doesn't make sense. No kidding. Hell, they'll probably have to eat some of that contract as well, but they're not DFAing him and eating the rest of that deal. Especially after they were able to unload Bradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 02:10 PM) I don't give a rat's ass if Danks isn't able to be extended, his value on the open market right now would net ATLEAST 2 premium prospects. He has 2 full years of service beyond this year and, assuming he doesn't fall completely off the face of the earth, he will net draft pick compensation of some form (and it will probably be Type A compensation). As such, trading for Danks right now adds 2 and a half years of full service time PLUS two top 65 draft picks in the 2013 draft. Fielder is good, but trading Danks now virtually destroys any chance the Sox have of making it to the postseason this season. Add to that fact that you would get one more year out of Danks than you would Fielder, and giving up 3 talented young players on top of it makes it asinine. Preach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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