Adam Dunn Trade rumor thread

[iamshack]

I wouldn't do Danks + Hudson.

 

Maybe Floyd + Hudson, but definitely not Danks + a top prospect

I don't think you can give away one of our current SPs plus Hudson...you've got to use Hudson to replace that pitcher you move...

[hi8is]

unless you can make a trade for someone like cliff lee =P

 

now i'm thinkin like KW.

 

Lee and Fielder =)

 

That's what's up.

 

bawhahahaha

 

Talk about a pipe dream

[WCSox]

JD Drew definitely fits into that category. Before injuries in his St. Louis days, he had a ton of range. He still is a very good RF. He doesn't have the same range he had when he first came up, but he makes up for that because he is actually a very smart OF and takes excellent routes and gets very good reads.

 

If one considers UZR a reliable range metric, Drew's numbers tend to support your case. I had forgotten that he played CF reasonably well in ATL.

 

That said, RFs with Drew's defense are rare and those with Ichiro's are once-in-a-generation players. Realistically, one typically has to choose between better range/less power (e.g., DeJesus) and inferior range/more power (e.g., Quentin).

 

[southsider2k5]

Of all those names listed, the only logical one (for the White Sox) is taking a huge roll of the dice on Upton's character and the coaching staff being able to control him.

 

It's not like Maddon is a difficult manager to play for, he's one of the best, better than Scioscia in my opinion because he doesn't micromanage and try to control every aspect of the organization, he spreads the credit around.

 

Rios, his major major major flaw defensively is on balls hit over his head....balls he has to turn his shoulder and just run to a blind spot and "find" the ball again...other than that, he's pretty close to flawless out there. It has happened to him at least 5-7 times this season already. Not errors, but plays that should be made IMO.

 

Sweeney just doesn't have the dominant range and speed/quickness for center, certainly he's a very good RFer though, same with Markakis.

 

Speaking as someone who has pretty much seen every single game on TV this year, I don't think we are watching the same thing. The only balls he doesn't get to, are ones that are absolutely crushed and no real mortal had a chance at anyway. If he isn't getting it, it is either a screaming liner, or it the hitter hit one the opposite of the defensive alignment. I do not remember a better defensive CF on the southside in my lifetime. I know Rios doesn't go smashing into walls, or diving into the gaps, but that is because he is making the play look easy, and I think that takes away from the eye test for a lot of fans.

[caulfield12]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Na...?urn=mlb,252779

 

 

Quentin for Dunn?

 

That makes absolutely zero sense, unless KW is replacing Quentin with another move, but where's he going to get another hitter with Quentin's POTENTIAL ability to stick in RF?

[chw42]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Na...?urn=mlb,252779

 

 

Quentin for Dunn?

 

That makes absolutely zero sense, unless KW is replacing Quentin with another move, but where's he going to get another hitter with Quentin's POTENTIAL ability to stick in RF?

 

Maybe he wants Dunn and DeJesus. I wouldn't be so against that.

 

But if Kenny plans on putting Dunn in RF, oh lawd...

Edited July 5, 2010 by chw42

[Harry Chappas]

Would you trade Beckham, Torres and Flowers for Fielder and Weeks?

 

If Gallardo is out for a while the Brewers need to sell parts.

[caulfield12]

Yes, but the Brewers wouldn't it.

 

It also would depend (to me) on whether Putz was going to stay as the closer.

[chw42]

Yes, but the Brewers wouldn't it.

 

It also would depend (to me) on whether Putz was going to stay as the closer.

 

Why does Putz figure into this equation? You're not trading any bullpen pieces.

[caulfield12]

Why does Putz figure into this equation? You're not trading any bullpen pieces.

 

If I knew I was losing Putz, Jenks and then trading Santos, that would be too many pieces to replace.

[WCSox]

But if Kenny plans on putting Dunn in RF, oh lawd...

 

Kotsay would likely play RF in that scenario.

 

Maybe he wants Dunn and DeJesus. I wouldn't be so against that.

 

(Dunn + DeJesus) >> (Kotsay/Jones + Quentin)

 

[caulfield12]

Kotsay would likely play RF in that scenario.

 

 

 

(Dunn + DeJesus) >> (Kotsay/Jones + Quentin)

 

 

I agree.

 

The problem is whether our budget does, too?

 

If I was Washington, I would probably make that move...Quentin for Dunn, for sure.

 

The question is what we'd have to give up to get DeJesus? You need a RFer or CFer in that scenario. The price is going to be pretty steep, Moore has looked pretty silly with some of his trades the last 2 years so he's going to be asking for a lot.

 

 

[Vance Law]

If we could get an extension done, and add someone else to play right, it makes some sense.

[chw42]

Kotsay would likely play RF in that scenario.

 

 

 

(Dunn + DeJesus) >> (Kotsay/Jones + Quentin)

 

Well yeah. And DeJesus is a good player under control for another year. So the contract difference between he and Carlos isn't gigantic.

[GreatScott82]

DeJesus + Dunn HELL YEAH! I would definitley trade Q for Dunn straight up. If you insert two high OBP guys like DeJesus and Dunn all of a sudden you have a REALLY solid lineup.

 

Pierre LF

DeJesus RF

Rios CF

Konerko 1B

Dunn DH

Ramirez SS

Pierzynski C

Vizquel/Viciedo 3B

Beckham 2B

 

[chw42]

DeJesus + Dunn HELL YEAH! I would definitley trade Q for Dunn straight up. If you insert two high OBP guys like DeJesus and Dunn all of a sudden you have a REALLY solid lineup.

 

Pierre LF

DeJesus RF

Rios CF

Konerko 1B

Dunn DH

Ramirez SS

Pierzynski C

Vizquel/Viciedo 3B

Beckham 2B

 

I'd rather have DeJesus lead off.

 

[Real]

Dunn doesn't want to DH, he also walks after this year

 

Meanwhile I'm tired of KC players not named Soria or Greinke, DeJesus is overrated by this board

 

Quentin is finally turning it on, let him ride his hotstreak out and see what happens, we have a month until the deadline

 

Quentin for Dunn = No, Prospects for Dunn = Ok

 

Yes, I value Quentin higher than Flowers or Viciedo right now, though I'm sure a lot of you here don't

[chw42]

Dunn doesn't want to DH, he also walks after this year

 

Meanwhile I'm tired of KC players not named Soria or Greinke, DeJesus is overrated by this board

 

Quentin is finally turning it on, let him ride his hotstreak out and see what happens, we have a month until the deadline

 

Quentin for Dunn = No, Prospects for Dunn = Ok

Yes, I value Quentin higher than Flowers or Viciedo right now, though I'm sure a lot of you here don't

 

I think Quentin is worth more to the team right now than both Flowers and Dayan.

[Vance Law]

DeJesus is overrated by this board

 

The most important skill to have as a hitter is getting on base. Dejesus' OBP is .398 this year. His career OBP is .361

 

Career OBP:

 

Pierre .346

Rios .333

Konerko .354

Quentin .346

Ramirez .323

Beckham .317

Kotsay .336

Jones .337

AJ .324

Teahen .331

 

And that says nothing about the fact that he's an above average outfielder and collects a lot of extra base hits.

Edited July 5, 2010 by Vance Law

[South Side Fireworks Man]

I think Quentin is worth more to the team right now than both Flowers and Dayan.

Quentin worth more than the great Tyler Flowers? The guy hitting .219 in AAA???

 

I'd trade Flowers in a heartbeat but the problem is no other team would be interested in him as the main piece of a deal, even for a 3 month rental bat.

 

Trading Quentin for Dunn doesn't accomplish much as they'd still be a bat short and Dunn would be gone after this year anyway. Plus with Ozzie around, Dunn would be playing way too much at 1B and in the OF which would make the deal a net loss.

[chw42]

Quentin worth more than the great Tyler Flowers? The guy hitting .219 in AAA???

 

I'd trade Flowers in a heartbeat but the problem is no other team would be interested in him as the main piece of a deal, even for a 3 month rental bat.

 

Trading Quentin for Dunn doesn't accomplish much as they'd still be a bat short and Dunn would be gone after this year anyway. Plus with Ozzie around, Dunn would be playing way too much at 1B and in the OF which would make the deal a net loss.

 

I would only approve of the deal if Kenny gets somebody like DeJesus.

[chw42]

The most important skill to have as a hitter is getting on base. Dejesus' OBP is .398 this year. His career OBP is .361

 

Career OBP:

 

Pierre .346

Rios .333

Konerko .354

Quentin .346

Ramirez .323

Beckham .317

Kotsay .336

Jones .337

AJ .324

Teahen .331

 

And that says nothing about the fact that he's an above average outfielder and collects a lot of extra base hits.

 

His power numbers will also increase here in Chicago.

[Quin]

His power numbers will also increase here in Chicago.

 

Mark Teahen.

[Vance Law]

Quentin worth more than the great Tyler Flowers? The guy hitting .219 in AAA???

 

And Quentin is hitting all of .229 in the majors. The 2 have identical .779 OPSs in their respective leagues. Throw in the fact that Quentin is a DH playing right field and hurting us defensively, while Flowers occupies the single most difficult position at which to field an adequate offensive player, and that Flowers is obviously cheaper and is under our control for 3 years more than Quentin......it is not so cut and dried. Though I think I have just made the case that Quentin should learn how to play catcher.

 

[Vance Law]

Mark Teahen.

 

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