ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) The Sox got Alex Rios for free. Had the Sox given up a bevy of prospects for Alex Rios last year, like the Sox would have to do for Dan Haren this year, people would be ripping the deal to shreds. Sox on the board. Kotsay would be wise to get a hit. You don't know that. Obviously I don't want to trade Hudson, Flowers, Viciedo, or other top 'spects for Haren, unless it means LaRoche + Haren. Just because I would like to see us get Dan Haren, doesn't mean I think we should clean out our farm for them. Cliff Lee he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:54 AM) I'd rather pitch Hudson than Haren, and that's not even counting that we'd have to give up prospects to get Haren. No thanks. Use what little capital we have in the minors to get Dunn on a decent deal if possible, or some other bat, and pitch Hudson. Haren = stud. Hudson = potential middle rotation starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) Haren = stud. Hudson = potential middle rotation starter. x2. I would trade Hudson and Flowers for Haren and LaRoche right now if I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) The Sox got Alex Rios for free. Had the Sox given up a bevy of prospects for Alex Rios last year, like the Sox would have to do for Dan Haren this year, people would be ripping the deal to shreds. Sox on the board. Kotsay would be wise to get a hit. That's be the steal of 2010, depending on what we give up. Dan Haren is a beast. He's having a down year, but his peripherals look almost like what they were these previous years. His 3.84 FIP and his 3.46 xFIP aren't too much worse than what they were last year. I think the sabermetric people would love the trade, everybody else will hate it. Just like the Rios trade last year. Edited July 8, 2010 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 So far so good for Jhonny Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) It's really amazing that there was actually talk of trading "Bacon Slayer" (when is the last time we've seen that?) straight up to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez, and a lot of people around here and on the radio were saying no way to that. I'd bet there are people that still wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Danks good through 2. More runs pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) I'd bet there are people that still wouldn't do it. Your looking at one of them. (more-so looking farther ahead as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) Come on Andruw, don't suck. Edited July 8, 2010 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 What a great pitch by Santana on Andruw right there. He aced him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Jones k's on three pitches. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 02:27 PM) That's be the steal of 2010, depending on what we give up. Dan Haren is a beast. He's having a down year, but his peripherals look almost like what they were these previous years. His 3.84 FIP and his 3.46 xFIP aren't too much worse than what they were last year. I think the sabermetric people would love the trade, everybody else will hate it. Just like the Rios trade last year. I'd love to get Haren too, but the fact that Hudson is under team control for 6 years has to count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprec32 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Jones sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:31 PM) Jones k's on three pitches. Ugh. Every morning I wake up sobbing, knowing that we still have Jones and Kotsay as our DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Ervin is just owning that low, outside corner to righties. We might have some trouble with that if he keeps hitting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:32 PM) Every morning I wake up sobbing, knowing that we still have Jones and Kotsay as our DH. but then Fred Manrique makes you smile and all is good in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (aprec32 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:32 PM) Jones sucks It was a great pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I can't even be mad about wasting a lead-off hit that inning when two of the outs were Becks and Andrew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 02:32 PM) Every morning I wake up sobbing, knowing that we still have Jones and Kotsay as our DH. Not that the two are related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprec32 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 And the previous 2 strikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Angels have been sucking this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (aprec32 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:34 PM) And the previous 2 strikes? Just 3 great pitches...nothing Andrew could do with any of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 What's with all of the errors lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Dayan has been mentoring Vizquel I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) You don't know that. Obviously I don't want to trade Hudson, Flowers, Viciedo, or other top 'spects for Haren, unless it means LaRoche + Haren. Just because I would like to see us get Dan Haren, doesn't mean I think we should clean out our farm for them. Cliff Lee he is not. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/18009235969 "Plenty of scouts on hand in Arizona. D-backs are listening to all offers, but Dan Haren likely to stay unless AZ blown away by offer." And I would argue he's every bit as good as Lee, and even if he's not, he's going to cost more to acquire than Lee simply because he's locked up for another 3 years beyond this at very reasonable prices (something like $12.5 mill this year and next year, and a $15.5 mill team option for 2012). Dan Haren is going to be ridiculously expensive. QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 01:27 PM) That's be the steal of 2010, depending on what we give up. Dan Haren is a beast. He's having a down year, but his peripherals look almost like what they were these previous years. His 3.84 FIP and his 3.46 xFIP aren't too much worse than what they were last year. I think the sabermetric people would love the trade, everybody else will hate it. Just like the Rios trade last year. They'd have to give up a ton, and it's just not worth it, considering the needs of the offense opposed to the needs of the pitching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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