Greg Hibbard Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 The great thing about 4@Min coming out of the break is that we'll have the big four ready to go, in any order. We save Hudson for the anemic Seattle offense, with their bottom of the barrel park factor. His second start will also be @Oakland, a losing team, and another bottom park factor. His 3rd start would be home vs. that same Athletics team, who btw has just a .699 team OPS. You do have to run him out @Detroit for the four game series, even with the day off, because of the double-header makeup, but it's ANOTHER pitcher's park. After that, his next start would be @Baltimore, which is obviously a brutal team, and another sub .700 team OPS. If form holds, after that it would be vs. Det, vs. Bal, @ Cle... All losing teams with the exception of the two detroit games...I know he may tank completely in the majors, but relatively speaking, you couldn't have asked for a better schedule alignment than this for a questionable fifth starter slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 great post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) Detroit plays as a hitter's park, and the Tigers offense is pretty good. Any of those matchups with Detroit are going to prove difficult for Hudson. The one great thing about Detroit's lineup is that, outside of Boesch, they really don't have a huge threat from the left side of the plate, and one of Hudson's biggest weaknesses in the majors could be getting lefties out. That's one reason why keeping him as far away from the Twins as possible would be a great thing. Edited July 8, 2010 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 great job on research. not saying youre gonna be 100% correct bc it's ozzie, so who knows, but that would be my choice. dont think hudson tanks it, i dont think thats really a possibility. were looking at a guy who should give us 5-7 innings of 1-5 run ball every outing. we get another hitter, we should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Post AS Break, I go: 1. Danks 2. Floyd 3. Buehrle 4. Garcia 5. Hudson Don't skip anyone, and I use a spot starter on August 7th so nobody is on short rest. That sets up the Minnesota series this way: 1-2-3-4 5-1-2 1-2-3 1-2-3 That's maximizing the lefties. Detroit series: 3-4-5-1 3-4-5 4-5-1-2 4-5-1 That maximizes the righties, especially Freddy, against the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:29 PM) Post AS Break, I go: 1. Danks 2. Floyd 3. Buehrle 4. Garcia 5. Hudson Don't skip anyone, and I use a spot starter on August 7th so nobody is on short rest. That sets up the Minnesota series this way: 1-2-3-4 5-1-2 1-2-3 1-2-3 That's maximizing the lefties. Detroit series: 3-4-5-1 3-4-5 4-5-1-2 4-5-1 That maximizes the righties, especially Freddy, against the Tigers. This is a really great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidepride15 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:16 PM) The great thing about 4@Min coming out of the break is that we'll have the big four ready to go, in any order. We save Hudson for the anemic Seattle offense, with their bottom of the barrel park factor. His second start will also be @Oakland, a losing team, and another bottom park factor. His 3rd start would be home vs. that same Athletics team, who btw has just a .699 team OPS. You do have to run him out @Detroit for the four game series, even with the day off, because of the double-header makeup, but it's ANOTHER pitcher's park. After that, his next start would be @Baltimore, which is obviously a brutal team, and another sub .700 team OPS. If form holds, after that it would be vs. Det, vs. Bal, @ Cle... All losing teams with the exception of the two detroit games...I know he may tank completely in the majors, but relatively speaking, you couldn't have asked for a better schedule alignment than this for a questionable fifth starter slot. So by this logic I will be seeing Hudson pitch on Mullet night (July 30th vs A's)?? I like it. Pretty sure I've seen all the rest....except for Peavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I have been saying all season that the schdule has tough teams but no long tough stretches to it . Look at Min and Det. Det has a brutal stretch coming up. This seven game Tex / Cal looked to be the toughest and that is going fairly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) Wrong thread. I'm embarassed. Edited July 8, 2010 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 And now I really want Danksy out there for the first game after the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 No need to totally baby the kid. He's got to face the big boys/teams soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:37 PM) No need to totally baby the kid. He's got to face the big boys/teams soon enough. But if you can line up your better pitchers against the better teams, then that's what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:37 PM) No need to totally baby the kid. He's got to face the big boys/teams soon enough. You're probably the only one around that liked Jerry Manuel's decision to start Cotts in Yankee stadium when Buehrle was on his normal rest. Edited July 8, 2010 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Tony Pena should be used for a spot start if need be with no hesitation, he seems to let his stuff work for him more when he knows he's in there for a multiple innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) But if you can line up your better pitchers against the better teams, then that's what you do. For sure no doubt, but some people are acting like the kid needs to pitch against only teams like KC, Seattle, etc.. every night. Eventually he has to face the Bostons, NYY of the world. Luckally he already has that MLB experience from last year, and I'm one of Huddy's biggest fans so I know he can handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) For sure no doubt, but some people are acting like the kid needs to pitch against only teams like KC, Seattle, etc.. every night. Eventually he has to face the Bostons, NYY of the world. Luckally he already has that MLB experience from last year, and I'm one of Huddy's biggest fans so I know he can handle it. I think he'll be fine, but seriously, keeping him away from Minnesota would be for the good of the team. It's very possible that Mauer/Morneau/Kubel/Thome/Hudson could rip him to shreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) For sure no doubt, but some people are acting like the kid needs to pitch against only teams like KC, Seattle, etc.. every night. Eventually he has to face the Bostons, NYY of the world. Luckally he already has that MLB experience from last year, and I'm one of Huddy's biggest fans so I know he can handle it. Of course you will need him to beat a NYY/BOS/TB type team long term. Considering how much people emphasize developing someone psychologically at the major league level, and considering that there's no way you'd use him in the postseason in 2010 (barring some unforeseen phenom-track development) - what's the harm in limiting his exposure this season to 2-3 "bigger" games, and 11-12 starts against more beatable opponents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 i just hope the team doesn't cool down over the all star break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I really don't see Hudson not performing for us. I have an absurd amount of faith in the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 If you remember coming down the stretch in 2005, Brandon McCarthy was our second best pitcher. Remember his start against the Red Sox in Boston? I think he lost 2-1 or 1-0 to Johan Sanntana, something like that...as well. He pitched very well against almost everyone. Not saying Hudson will replicate McCarthy's results, but it CAN work more to the pitcher's advantage the first time out against most of those teams. Agreed that those match-ups with Detroit and Minnesota won't be very easy, but it's the major leagues...nothing's supposed to be easy. Heck, if things were easy, we'd be 13-8 or better against CLE/KC and 18-20-22 games over .500 and way ahead of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 04:57 PM) I think he'll be fine, but seriously, keeping him away from Minnesota would be for the good of the team. It's very possible that Mauer/Morneau/Kubel/Thome/Hudson could rip him to shreds. I wouldn't "worry" about that as much as I would want my best 3 pitchers facing the Twins and Tigers every time possible down the stretc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Ozzie got it right. http://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/18282486622 After the break: 1. Danks 2. Floyd 3. Buehrle 4. Garcia 5. Hudson Edited July 11, 2010 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 11:35 AM) Ozzie got it right. http://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/18282486622 After the break: 1. Danks 2. Floyd 3. Buehrle 4. Garcia 5. Hudson Have the Twins announced their rotation after the break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) Have the Twins announced their rotation after the break? MLB.com has Slowey, Liriano, Pavano, Blackburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) MLB.com has Slowey, Liriano, Pavano, Blackburn I'd be fine with a split in Minnesota, but those pitching matchups look really good for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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