White Sox Trade Catch-All

[justBLAZE]

Does anyone else think Kenny makes/doesn't make a move based on moves made/lack of by Tigers/Twins ?

[Balta1701]

Does anyone else think Kenny makes/doesn't make a move based on moves made/lack of by Tigers/Twins ?

Emphatically no.

 

KW will do the best he can with what he has to work with. If the Tigers mortgage their farm for Dunn, it won't affect KW's decision making one bit.

 

[chw42]

I really can't believe there are some people out there that don't think this team needs help. They must not be watching the games since all they do is call into the postgame show and ramble on about nonsensical crap.

[Chicago White Sox]

Does anyone else think Kenny makes/doesn't make a move based on moves made/lack of by Tigers/Twins ?

I think KW is looking to make a move that will make us stronger in the playoffs (and by default the regular season). I just can't believe he'd be willing to roll the dice against the Yankees or Rays with Mark Kotsay's .657 OPS in the five whole. We are one left-handed power bat away from having a pretty nice lineup. I honestly feel that KW will try everything in his power to get that bat.

[Balta1701]

I really can't believe there are some people out there that don't think this team needs help. They must not be watching the games since all they do is call into the postgame show and ramble on about nonsensical crap.

This team could definitely benefit from help.

 

This team could also win the division without help.

 

This team could also lose the division without help.

 

This team could also acquire help and still lose the division.

 

This team could also be made worse both this year and next if they pay too high of a price for help.

 

These ideas are not mutually exclusive.

 

However, this is not a defense of postgame caller rants.

[chw42]

This team could definitely benefit from help.

 

This team could also win the division without help.

 

This team could also lose the division without help.

 

This team could also acquire help and still lose the division.

 

This team could also be made worse both this year and next if they pay too high of a price for help.

 

These ideas are not mutually exclusive.

 

However, this is not a defense of postgame caller rants.

 

Now you're sounding like Chris Rongey.

[BigSqwert]

Very quite day on the rumor front.

[caulfield12]

White Sox: Kelly Johnson

 

The White Sox seem to be focused on a basher, but it's not really what they need. They need a table-setter. Chicago hits plenty of home runs. The problem is outs; White Sox hitters just don't get on base nearly enough, so they end up hitting solo homer after solo homer.

 

Thus, Johnson fits the Sox in just about every way. For most of his career -- not just in this, a career season he's having for the D-backs -- he's gotten on base at a good clip -- save for his disastrous '09 season that ended his tenure in Atlanta. His left-handed bat would provide much-needed balance in a heavily right-handed Chicago lineup. The Sox's current second baseman, Gordon Beckham, just isn't getting the job done offensively. And it's hard to imagine the Snakes, who traded Haren on Sunday, won't continue to be sellers over the next few days.

 

If in fact the Diamondbacks are going to be sellers between now and Saturday, they have a number of intriguing players to offer. Shortstop Stephen Drew could be a great fit in St. Louis, catcher Miguel Montero has drawn a great deal of interest in the past, and there's reportedly even some interest in reliever Chad Qualls. But Johnson looks like the best fit for the White Sox -- even if it means buying high on a player enjoying a career year. He'd be a significant upgrade at a position of weakness, while also addressing Chicago's largest club-wide offensive issue.

 

In fairness, a player such as Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn would also address the OBP issue for the Sox while simultaneously providing even more power. But Johnson might come cheaper than those players, and his defensive versatility would be a plus as well. Still, it seems the Sox aren't looking at table-setters, but instead at thumpers.

 

"Same list. Same targets," general manager Ken Williams told reporters recently.

 

MLB.COM

 

 

Pretty sad that they're about 2-3 weeks late in noticing that Gordon Beckham finally heated up...and was playing at a level not requiring a replacement.

[Kyyle23]

Very quite day on the rumor front.

 

Kenny is going below radar into total stealth mode

[chw42]

White Sox: Kelly Johnson

 

The White Sox seem to be focused on a basher, but it's not really what they need. They need a table-setter. Chicago hits plenty of home runs. The problem is outs; White Sox hitters just don't get on base nearly enough, so they end up hitting solo homer after solo homer.

 

Thus, Johnson fits the Sox in just about every way. For most of his career -- not just in this, a career season he's having for the D-backs -- he's gotten on base at a good clip -- save for his disastrous '09 season that ended his tenure in Atlanta. His left-handed bat would provide much-needed balance in a heavily right-handed Chicago lineup. The Sox's current second baseman, Gordon Beckham, just isn't getting the job done offensively. And it's hard to imagine the Snakes, who traded Haren on Sunday, won't continue to be sellers over the next few days.

 

If in fact the Diamondbacks are going to be sellers between now and Saturday, they have a number of intriguing players to offer. Shortstop Stephen Drew could be a great fit in St. Louis, catcher Miguel Montero has drawn a great deal of interest in the past, and there's reportedly even some interest in reliever Chad Qualls. But Johnson looks like the best fit for the White Sox -- even if it means buying high on a player enjoying a career year. He'd be a significant upgrade at a position of weakness, while also addressing Chicago's largest club-wide offensive issue.

 

In fairness, a player such as Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn would also address the OBP issue for the Sox while simultaneously providing even more power. But Johnson might come cheaper than those players, and his defensive versatility would be a plus as well. Still, it seems the Sox aren't looking at table-setters, but instead at thumpers.

 

"Same list. Same targets," general manager Ken Williams told reporters recently.

 

MLB.COM

 

 

Pretty sad that they're about 2-3 weeks late in noticing that Gordon Beckham finally heated up...and was playing at a level not requiring a replacement.

 

Johnson's always been a good offensive player, but like you said, where the hell would he play? His defense isn't good and he's played the OF before to no avail.

 

[Kyyle23]

Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal

 

#WhiteSox remain focused on Dunn, but laying groundwork for SP. Hudson pitches Friday. If he flops again, team could shift course. #MLB

[chw42]

Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal

 

#WhiteSox remain focused on Dunn, but laying groundwork for SP. Hudson pitches Friday. If he flops again, team could shift course. #MLB

 

Trade for Jackson. See how Hudson does on Friday. Depending on that, decide whether to keep Jackson or flip him for Dunn?

[longshot7]

Johnson's always been a good offensive player, but like you said, where the hell would he play? His defense isn't good and he's played the OF before to no avail.

 

DH?

[chw42]

DH?

 

I'm really in favor of getting a RF who can make Quentin the full-time DH. Quentin's bad defense and his ability to get hurt on just about every play worries me.

 

Unless it's Dunn or Fielder, impact bats that should DH, I don't see a reason for us to DH anybody else that's not named Quentin if we get a player at the deadline.

[NorthSideSox72]

DH?

That's what I was thinking. DH mostly, play the field occasionally to give guys days off, DFA Kotsay, keep Jones as a righty DH and OF rotator.

 

[beck72]

How about Mark Teahen/Dan Hudson/Jordan Danks for Chone Figgins/Russel Branyan

 

3b figgins 2b beckham cf rios 1b konerko rf quentin dh branyan ss ramirez c aj p lf pierre

 

carlos torres called up for hudson.

I could see the sox adding Figgins in the offseason ala Pierre [salary dump, add in cash to the sox] for 3b.

[beck72]

Does anyone else think Kenny makes/doesn't make a move based on moves made/lack of by Tigers/Twins ?

I do think the sox might add players based on the sox playing these two teams 23 more times this season. That's why adding a vet who's familiar with these two teams, like Jake Westbrook, might make sense.

[NorthSideSox72]

I could see the sox adding Figgins in the offseason ala Pierre [salary dump, add in cash to the sox] for 3b.

One thing this team doesn't really need for 2011-2012 is 3B's. Between Teahen, Viciedo and Morel, there really isn't much reason to go get another one, unless they were really good and clearly better than any of those three could be. If they acquire Figgins, it would be to play elsewhere.

 

[BearSox]

How about Mark Teahen/Dan Hudson/Jordan Danks for Chone Figgins/Russel Branyan

 

3b figgins 2b beckham cf rios 1b konerko rf quentin dh branyan ss ramirez c aj p lf pierre

 

carlos torres called up for hudson.

HAHAHA, is this a joke?! I wouldn't trade Jordan Danks straight up for Figgins and Branyan. At least Danks is cheap and still has potential... Figgins and Branyan don't add s***. Figgins is expensive and is god awful with the bat this year, and while Branyan would be a slight upgrade at DH, he still sucks and we'd be better off going after someone else. I think Branyan makes us even a worse team, he's just not that good, and I'd pull my hair out if I have to watch him strike out 100 times in the next 2 and 1/2 months.

[BearSox]

One thing this team doesn't really need for 2011-2012 is 3B's. Between Teahen, Viciedo and Morel, there really isn't much reason to go get another one, unless they were really good and clearly better than any of those three could be. If they acquire Figgins, it would be to play elsewhere.

If we could convince the Mariners to eat over half of his contract, I wouldn't mind having Figgins on the bench as a utility role player.

[Balta1701]

If we could convince the Mariners to eat over half of his contract, I wouldn't mind having Figgins on the bench as a utility role player.

If I were the M's, I wouldn't eat half that contract unless the return was something serious.

[BearSox]

White Sox: Kelly Johnson

 

The White Sox seem to be focused on a basher, but it's not really what they need. They need a table-setter. Chicago hits plenty of home runs. The problem is outs; White Sox hitters just don't get on base nearly enough, so they end up hitting solo homer after solo homer.

 

Thus, Johnson fits the Sox in just about every way. For most of his career -- not just in this, a career season he's having for the D-backs -- he's gotten on base at a good clip -- save for his disastrous '09 season that ended his tenure in Atlanta. His left-handed bat would provide much-needed balance in a heavily right-handed Chicago lineup. The Sox's current second baseman, Gordon Beckham, just isn't getting the job done offensively. And it's hard to imagine the Snakes, who traded Haren on Sunday, won't continue to be sellers over the next few days.

 

If in fact the Diamondbacks are going to be sellers between now and Saturday, they have a number of intriguing players to offer. Shortstop Stephen Drew could be a great fit in St. Louis, catcher Miguel Montero has drawn a great deal of interest in the past, and there's reportedly even some interest in reliever Chad Qualls. But Johnson looks like the best fit for the White Sox -- even if it means buying high on a player enjoying a career year. He'd be a significant upgrade at a position of weakness, while also addressing Chicago's largest club-wide offensive issue.

 

In fairness, a player such as Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn would also address the OBP issue for the Sox while simultaneously providing even more power. But Johnson might come cheaper than those players, and his defensive versatility would be a plus as well. Still, it seems the Sox aren't looking at table-setters, but instead at thumpers.

 

"Same list. Same targets," general manager Ken Williams told reporters recently.

 

MLB.COM

 

 

Pretty sad that they're about 2-3 weeks late in noticing that Gordon Beckham finally heated up...and was playing at a level not requiring a replacement.

I'd f***ing love to get Stephen Drew, even if we don't have a spot to play him right now.

[Balta1701]

I'd f***ing love to get Stephen Drew, even if we don't have a spot to play him right now.

The fact that the Dbacks attempted to stockpile pitching with the Haren deal tells you all you need to know about how they're looking at the young but struggling bats on their roster.

[BearSox]

If I were the M's, I wouldn't eat half that contract unless the return was something serious.

And hence why we will see Figgins playing in Seattle for at least 1 more season unless they feel his attitude is too much of a problem.

[Balta1701]

And hence why we will see Figgins playing in Seattle for at least 1 more season unless they feel his attitude is too much of a problem.

Would you take Figgins as a straight up waiver claim right now?