Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 WOw, for 2 reasons: 1) that would hve been a world shocker that Cowley was talking about. This also shows KW is looking for an IMPACT bat; whether it is lefty or righty.2) why in the HELL would the dodgers say no, I don't know the package of prospects but they are beyond broke and it would have been a perfect chance to get out under mannys contract. Finally, this shows we are going for it and money is not a worry. Rosenthal on MLB network, we may see a manny deal in august. Says he will clear waivers and dodgers want to see what he has when he gets back from the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) Rosenthal on MLB network, we may see a manny deal in august. Says he will clear waivers and dodgers want to see what he has when he gets back from the DL. I don't like the idea of waiting until late August to try and pick up some offensive help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:37 AM) I don't like the idea of waiting until late August to try and pick up some offensive help. We already waited till July. What's wrong with giving Mark Kotsay more at-bats? The answer? Everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) WOw, for 2 reasons: 1) that would hve been a world shocker that Cowley was talking about. This also shows KW is looking for an IMPACT bat; whether it is lefty or righty.2) why in the HELL would the dodgers say no, I don't know the package of prospects but they are beyond broke and it would have been a perfect chance to get out under mannys contract. Finally, this shows we are going for it and money is not a worry. Rosenthal on MLB network, we may see a manny deal in august. Says he will clear waivers and dodgers want to see what he has when he gets back from the DL. Cowley is already saying that this was his "shocker" story, of which he know of no names at the time he was spreading this rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well KW is trying. You can't blame him for lack of trying. Thankfully our offense has been pretty awesome in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) I'm on the same boat but I beleive, Waivers begin tom. So technically if LA put Manny on waivers Tom and he clears any team could work out a trade with LA at anytime. In reality a deal could happen in only two weeks. We could see if the offense truly is ok (not a chance) an also give a chance to see what Viciedo has offensively. Edited July 31, 2010 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Mark Teahen says hi! No, I don't like the idea of waiting on Mark to "save" our offense, either. It's a nice thought, but I'm far from counting on him to contribute much the final two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Manny Ramirez isn't worth it. He's hurt right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 If rumors that Dbacks were willing to trade Kelly Johnson for Theriot and James Russell, then KW should be looking into what Arizona wants for Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 This is quickly shaping up to be a disappointing deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Your probably right he isn't worth it, he would probably be a guy who disrupts chemistry because he is a me first guy. However he was and maybe can still be one of the best hitters in the league. Everyone know this guy is a professional hitter by every definition. There's no doubt in my mind he would benefit being a DH and even more so cause he would be able to stay healthy and save himself his manny moments in the feild. I would love seeing Manny mash in the cell. In fact I would LOVE it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 He also comes off the DL today or tomorrow. Atleast he could be activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:40 AM) Cowley is already saying that this was his "shocker" story, of which he know of no names at the time he was spreading this rumor. Considering he said they were working on a shocker and Rosenthal just said the Sox were rejected right away it again is just Cowley justifying his generic BS. Everyone on this board knows KW is asking about everyone. I'm sure he's even asking about more that would be shockers today. BTW, the story is the Sox wanted LA to pay Manny's entire contract save $1 million and wanted to send no prospects. It was easily rejected. Edited July 31, 2010 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Both Manny and Dunn deals are dead, Kenny working on a bat but scrambling according to Cowley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) Your probably right he isn't worth it, he would probably be a guy who disrupts chemistry because he is a me first guy. However he was and maybe can still be one of the best hitters in the league. Everyone know this guy is a professional hitter by every definition. There's no doubt in my mind he would benefit being a DH and even more so cause he would be able to stay healthy and save himself his manny moments in the feild. I would love seeing Manny mash in the cell. In fact I would LOVE it. He's probabably off the steroids right now so his performance could suffer at any point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:49 AM) This is quickly shaping up to be a disappointing deadline. Nah. Don't be disappointed. Not giving in to some other team's ridiculous demands is a good thing. There will be opportunities for waiver deals after the deadline. Keep in mind that our biggest trade bargaining chip right now is Viciedo and he would definitely be gone if we trade for Dunn. I think it could be a blessing in disguise to have things fall through... give Dayan more time to persuade the Sox that he's a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hilarious. Heyman on MLB Network saying that the Sox now won't trade Jackson to Washington, and the Nationals are asking for Beckham or Alexi Ramirez instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Im dissappointed I say give LA the money for Manny. Heyman on MLB Network: Nats still asking fr Beckham or Alexi. Jackson in a holding pattern. Rizzo has to be Fing me. HE IS A 2 MONTH RENTAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Heyman on MLB Network still not completely ruling out Ramirez to the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Cowley - By the way, privately Sox felt that Hudson was a future No. 5 starter/middle reliever at best. Sorry Phillip, do some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) Hilarious. Heyman on MLB Network saying that the Sox now won't trade Jackson to Washington, and the Nationals are asking for Beckham or Alexi Ramirez instead. They've been asking for that the whole time. If anyone seriously thought that trading him to Washington would be the saving grace for the Jackson deal, they were really missing things. You don't have to complete that first trade if the 2nd part has any chance of falling through...you do it as a 3 way unless you're happy with the other guy as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:06 AM) They've been asking for that the whole time. If anyone seriously thought that trading him to Washington would be the saving grace for the Jackson deal, they were really missing things. You don't have to complete that first trade if the 2nd part has any chance of falling through...you do it as a 3 way unless you're happy with the other guy as well. SO you're saying Kenny got EJax because he wanted him not to use him as a piece for Dunn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) SO you're saying Kenny got EJax because he wanted him not to use him as a piece for Dunn? No, he is saying... "I am the Walrus." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:04 AM) Hilarious. Heyman on MLB Network saying that the Sox now won't trade Jackson to Washington, and the Nationals are asking for Beckham or Alexi Ramirez instead. Screw Mike Rizzo. Watch this catch up with him, Strasburg's going to have arm issues and Harper's going to suck. It's karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:05 AM) Cowley - By the way, privately Sox felt that Hudson was a future No. 5 starter/middle reliever at best. Sorry Phillip, do some work. Must be the high maintenance mechanics stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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