chw42 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 WTF? Why? Jose Bautista is about as flukish as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 06:27 PM) WTF? Why? Jose Bautista is about as flukish as you can get. Because all you really want him for is 2-2.5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) Because all you really want him for is 2-2.5 months. Their asking price will be based on the fact that he's still arbitration eligible next season ($5M-$6M price tag). He'd cost a fortune. He's also not likely to come close to matching his first half production, so that's doubly bad. I imagine it was a very simple inquiry from Williams, just testing the waters a bit. I'd be mighty pissed if we traded for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) how about Dan Uggla A lot like Adam Dunn he's adverse to DH'ing and he'd be a non-tender candidate next year when his price tag reaches 8 figures in arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'd be weary of acquiring Bautista not only because his season is so out of line with his past performances, but also because the Blue Jays have seemed to have that affect on other players too (Gonzalez, Buck, etc.). I'd worry that by leaving the Jays he'd be leaving his power outburst behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Bautista isn't a good hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Perhaps Jorge Cantu makes the most sense as an added bat now, or Xavier Nady. Someone along those lines...who won't cost a fortune to acquire. LaRoche is obviously still in play, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 they can just give me a cool mil and i'll pretend to be a left handed power hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Jose Bautista over his past 502 plate appearances - .249/.355/.570/.925, 36 HR, 62 XBH, 64 BB, 98 K Not that I'm advocating acquiring him, but there are worse options out there. People are advocating acquiring Luke Scott (myself included), but he didn't reach the majors until he was 27, and didn't have a good, full season until he was 29, and is having the best year of his career at 32. Bautista doesn't turn 30 until October. I obviously haven't done enough research on Bautista to see if this is all a fluke or if he's figured it out or semi-figured it out, but I don't completely dismiss him just because he's having the best year of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think Luke Scott and Bautista make a lot of sense, though I like Scott more because he'd cost less. Scott has played the same positions as Kotsay, which makes dumping Kotsay easier too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) Jose Bautista over his past 502 plate appearances - .249/.355/.570/.925, 36 HR, 62 XBH, 64 BB, 98 K Not that I'm advocating acquiring him, but there are worse options out there. People are advocating acquiring Luke Scott (myself included), but he didn't reach the majors until he was 27, and didn't have a good, full season until he was 29, and is having the best year of his career at 32. Bautista doesn't turn 30 until October. I obviously haven't done enough research on Bautista to see if this is all a fluke or if he's figured it out or semi-figured it out, but I don't completely dismiss him just because he's having the best year of his career. He's going to cost too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'd be fine with a Bautista addition, but it will likely cost a ton. Projections have him making about 6 million next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I looked at Bautista's hit and pitch f/x charts. 22 of his 26 home runs have come on fastball type pitches (four-seam, two-seam. cutter, sinker). 3 came off a slider, 1 came off a curve. It's obvious that if you throw him off-speed stuff, he's not going to hit you. According to the pitch values, he can't hit change-ups. But he's absolutely raking against fastballs and sliders (a combined +22 runs off those). Edited July 22, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm not sure which thread it was where people were discussing DeJesus, but he just left the game against the Yankees with a wrist injury after crashing into the wall in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 DeJesus looked like he really messed up his thumb there..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 This is Dayton Moore's face right now -> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Just saying...I love me some Lance Berkman, even though his stats are down. Switch hitter than can play both OF and 1b. Very valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Berkman's not really a switch hitter, as his injuries are making it difficult for him to bat righty. He's still owed almost 6 million for this season. No thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) Never thought I'd say this... But with the cost of options available out there... Jack Cust is looking pretty good. Having a nice year. Left-handed power. Good OBP. Dirt cheap. Short contract. Edited July 23, 2010 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm a little surprised we didn't sign Cust after spring training and put him in AAA. That was a no risk deal. Maybe he's no better than Kotsay, but at the time I thought he was worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) I'm a little surprised we didn't sign Cust after spring training and put him in AAA. That was a no risk deal. Maybe he's no better than Kotsay, but at the time I thought he was worth a shot. It was either Thome or Kotsay. Once they decided not to sign Thome...they were going full speed ahead to wreck this DH train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 BP: Five trades that need to happen 4. The Chicago White Sox acquire DH Luke Scott and 3B Miguel Tejada from the Baltimore Orioles for SS Eduardo Escobar and RHPs Lucas Harrell and Jhonny NunezTied with Oakland for ninth place in the AL in team TAv, the Sox need to punch up their offense. Obvious spots that need help are third base and DH, with Mark Teahen shelved and healing slowly, and the platoon of Andruw Jones and Mark Kotsay struggling to produce. Always open to a trade, Kenny Williams likes adding the occasional ex-famous person to the mix for his stretch runs -- Roberto Alomar, Carl Everett, Ken Griffey Jr. -- and Tejada would fit neatly within that pattern, providing the White Sox with a former MVP who might get a last lease on life at the plate while manning third base. Scott would be the more subtle addition, but his .304 TAv would provide a big dose of sock and balance. To swing the deal, Chicago would have to give the Orioles the shortstop prospect they need, and sure-handed Escobar has elicited comparisons to Omar Vizquel for his fielding. Harrell and Nunez are both live arms who could help in a big league bullpen, so this might seem like a lot, but Scott is under club control through 2012, providing the Sox with a lasting answer to their need for a lefty power bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 23, 2010 -> 08:40 AM) BP: Five trades that need to happen I'll take Scott. No thanks to Tejada. He's just terrible. If the cost for Scott is Escobar + Nunez/Harell, then what is Kenny waiting for? Edited July 23, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Jon Heyman (SI) on Twitter: #chisox like prince fielder but have discussed dunn, laroche and berkman, in that order, as possible 2nd choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 23, 2010 -> 08:40 AM) BP: Five trades that need to happen I'd be thrilled with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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