chw42 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:57 PM) Then you have one powerful umbrella if it can take hail accelerated to 100+ mph. Greg makes it hail on dem hoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them. Freddy Garcia and Tony Pena have proved today that they can handle the 4/5 spots in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 09:57 PM) And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them. If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I f***ing hate the amount of foul territory in this park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I hate to give up, but I'm out into the hail/rain. I hope we rally to win somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 lets go omar, 2 out rally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 There is absolutely no way he gives up Beckham, right? someone please tell me im right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 This offense really needs a spark. There's been a real lack of hard hit balls lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Farmer/DJ saying that the Sox look "Tired" today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more. I said the other day that playing in what's typically been a weak division has killed our farm during the KW era. It'd be nice to go into a season without glaring holes in which we have to overpay to shore them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 09:59 PM) There is absolutely no way he gives up Beckham, right? someone please tell me im right. I'm confident he won't. What KW needs to do is find a lefty bat that won't require him giving up Beckham and Hudson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:00 PM) Farmer/DJ saying that the Sox look "Tired" today. Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) If it's Fielder, that's one thing. If he gives up Hudson or Beckham for Dunn, it will make me hate the front office's decision to not bring back Thome even more. I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return. In no way would I trade him for Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return. In no way would I trade him for Dunn. Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 04:57 PM) And I'm confident he will give up Hudson if he does get one of them. And if he gives up Hudson or Beckman, I'm going to be very angry. Unless you're bring me a signed and sealed Pujols. And that ain't happening. Get Dunn or Fielder in free agency, please don't give these guys up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:01 PM) I'm fine with giving up Hudson if we get Fielder in return. I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent. I love the potential of their starting rotation. But they seriously need some bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) We were due for a real stinker. Oakland is a decent ballclub. Not great, but decent. I like the positive you. Let's win the series tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I wouldn't be totally against Beckham for Fielder... as long as Fielder is resigned long term. Fielder has done more than Beckham. It would suck but to get a hitter of his caliber... man. Imagine that man hitting in the cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:02 PM) Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season) We would just have to live with somebody like Torres throwing BP every fifth day. I would be willing to live with that to get a guy like Fielder in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 i'm still feeling come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up. Oh snaps. Balta has hopped on the sabermetric train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:02 PM) Who would be our 5th starter the rest of the way (and don't forget the uncertainty that Garcia can hold up the rest of this season) Torres has thrown 120 innings at CHarlotte and put up a 3.40 ERA. He has to be next in line. Of course, you'd probably have to deal him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:03 PM) I genuinely am feeling like this deal makes us worse this season. Fielder has been worth 3 wins above replacement this season (and has been only slightly below average in the field). Stuck at DH, he's probably worth another 2-3 wins above Kotsay. OTOH, if the 5th starter spot has 10 slots left, if all Hudson does is go .500, compared to Torres or Pena, that's gotta cost us 2-3 wins if we have to give him up. Well said, and I couldn't agree more. Realistically, Luke Scott should be our main target. Also, don't forget that Fielder doesn't really solve the issue that is "Carlos Quentin's fragility". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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