Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) They need a bat. They can't ride this pitching wave forever and the minute it falters something needs to be there to take its place. These things tend to balance themselves out. I don't think many folks truly realize the impact of what losing Peavy for the year has created. It's about way more than him not being able to take the mound every 5th day. Big ass domino effect. I don't think we're going to be able to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Letting Pena start this inning makes me think Hudson might be getting dealt, and Ozzie's trying to stretch out Pena for upcoming spot starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:19 PM) He knows more scouts than I do. Well yeah. But he's like your messiah all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:23 PM) Well yeah. But he's like your messiah all of a sudden. I quoted him twice because I knew I'd read the article about 2 guys likely to be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 10:22 PM) I don't think many folks truly realize the impact of what losing Peavy for the year has created. It's about way more than him not being able to take the mound every 5th day. Big ass domino effect. I don't think we're going to be able to recover. I couldn't agree more. Easily one of the most crippling injuries I can remember the Sox having. Look at the team now, and there's some huge concerns with #4/5, some bullpen issues, and the usual RF/DH issues. Hudson's now no longer a viable trade chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:22 PM) I don't think many folks truly realize the impact of what losing Peavy for the year has created. It's about way more than him not being able to take the mound every 5th day. Big ass domino effect. I don't think we're going to be able to recover. At least for now...if Hudson can be the guy to take the mound every 5th day...all he has to do for me is do what Peavy has done so far thsi year. Near .500 record, ERA just below 5, gives you a chance to win some of the games he's in. If you trade him though...then that's a big ass domino effect. Of course, one of those dominoes is also not filling the DH role to start the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:25 PM) I couldn't agree more. Easily one of the most crippling injuries I can remember the Sox having. Look at the team now, and there's some huge concerns with #4/5, some bullpen issues, and the usual RF/DH issues. Hudson's now no longer a viable trade chip. There's just no way KW is going to be able to legitimately upgrade the offense and rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 What would it take to acquire Cust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) At least for now...if Hudson can be the guy to take the mound every 5th day...all he has to do for me is do what Peavy has done so far thsi year. Near .500 record, ERA just below 5, gives you a chance to win some of the games he's in. If you trade him though...then that's a big ass domino effect. Of course, one of those dominoes is also not filling the DH role to start the year. Thing is Peavy was just starting to hit his stride. I don't think it's as simple as Hudson keeping his era below 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:28 PM) Thing is Peavy was just starting to hit his stride. I don't think it's as simple as Hudson keeping his era below 5. We got to 1st place with Peavy 7-6 and a 4.6 ERA. Sure, he could pitch above that level...but that's all he'd done on the season by the time we were in first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Watching this game, considering the score, would have sucked no matter what having to listen to Mark Grace just makes it that much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) What would it take to acquire Cust Infinitely more than it would have three and a half months ago. Edited July 24, 2010 by TomPickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 11:29 PM) We got to 1st place with Peavy 7-6 and a 4.6 ERA. Sure, he could pitch above that level...but that's all he'd done on the season by the time we were in first place. But Peavy's strong stretch helped this team go on a huge run that put them into first place. If this team goes back to playing .500 baseball or less like they were before the 30 game run, then they're in a lot of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) What would it take to acquire Cust That's what I asked in the Trade Winds forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) Watching this game, considering the score, would have sucked no matter what having to listen to Mark Grace just makes it that much worse Seriously, even when was it was still 0-0, I was thinking about how f***ing awful this announcing crew is. The play-by-play guy's voice doesn't change whether its ball 1 or an RBI single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 06:31 PM) But Peavy's strong stretch helped this team go on a huge run that put them into first place. If this team goes back to playing .500 baseball or less like they were before the 30 game run, then they're in a lot of trouble. And his strong run was equally offset by his terrible run that helped the team pile up losses. Would you take 1 strong run and 1 weak run from Hudson? I would. That's my whole point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Our OF has to lead the league in steps/crow hops before all throws from the OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Rios's arm hasn't looked very good recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Seriously, Rios is playing some really dumb baseball out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 11:32 PM) Our OF has to lead the league in steps/crow hops before all throws from the OF Always had, I'm sure you recall me always saying that about Dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:29 PM) We got to 1st place with Peavy 7-6 and a 4.6 ERA. Sure, he could pitch above that level...but that's all he'd done on the season by the time we were in first place. Wrong. We got to 1st place because of a ridiculous 26-5 stretch in which the SP was 2005 like. Jake Peavy in June: 3-2, 1.75 ERA, .194 BAA, 29/8 SO/BB ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 bad game, freddy's smoke and mirrors not fooling the potent oaktown offense. Pena was s***, walking everybody, and threets struggling to get an out if we lose tomorrow im gonna be pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 11:32 PM) And his strong run was equally offset by his terrible run that helped the team pile up losses. Would you take 1 strong run and 1 weak run from Hudson? I would. That's my whole point. But who's to say Hudson is even capable of having a strong run? But no, I'd rather he just be consistent instead of peaks and valleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 That's gotta be the worst strike call ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) I'm still uncomfortable with the "10 runs = 1 win" calculation, but as a method of comparison there...it's a good way to guess at how the values of a 5th starter versus a big DH compare. I have seen you say this multiple times now. S*** was just not thrown at the wall... and then people walked by and just let it stick there. I suggest you look up exactly why the number is, what the number is, otherwise you will not grasp it and always be in doubt. Edited July 24, 2010 by qwerty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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