justBLAZE Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Gotta love this time of the year~! Bring in on Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:47 AM) Anyone else care to post Cowley's tweet? cst_sox Hold off on the Jackson trade folks, KW has something big cooking and if he gets it done Jackson trade is off. 2 minutes ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 "God, I love baseball . . ." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'm completely confused. I don't see how we would trade Huddy plus prospects for Edwin Jackson. I"ve long liked Jackson, but I'd be the first to admit that you have to be concerned at how Arizona over-worked him on the no-hitter as well as the fact that stastically he has never reached his potential. Does he have great stuff, absolutely, but can he pitch, not exactly great. Would he look good in our rotation, certainly, but not at the expense of Hudson. Hudson could get us better pieces. And I will say this, I'd rather keep Jackson than go out and spin Jackson for Dunn if it meant adding additional prospects, unless of course Kenny has some brilliant deal lined up for another starter. I'm curious to find out what Kenny has cooking? I wonder if it is Andre Ethier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:47 AM) Guys, you should all check Cowley's twitter feed! Did he tweet something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 So lets just say for a second that Cowley ISN'T full of s***, have we witnessed some incredibly impressive controlled leaks from the Sox front office to force the hand of another club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:49 AM) Did he tweet something?? Hopefully someone here can post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:49 AM) So lets just say for a second that Cowley ISN'T full of s***, have we witnessed some incredibly impressive controlled leaks from the Sox front office to force the hand of another club? that wouldnt shock me. He's VERY good at what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Meanwhile Merkin's piece on Jackson - everything we already know. http://scottmerkin.mlblogs.com/archives/20...ut_will_he.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:48 AM) He's proven what? That he's an extremely mediocre A.L. pitcher? Yeah, I'll pass on that. ERA bites people in the ass once again. A 4.3 FIP starter for the past two years at the back end of your rotation is more than acceptable. That said, Hudson was probably due for a 4.5 FIP this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 What could the something big be? Knowing Kenny it's a name no one has talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:47 AM) I wish I could just sleep until tomorrow afternoon... The last two days ofthe deadline really is Christmas eve for me. Thank god we have a ballsy GM. Edited July 30, 2010 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:52 AM) What could the something big be? Knowing Kenny it's a name no one has talked about. Joe Mauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:52 AM) ERA bites people in the ass once again. A 4.3 FIP starter for the past two years at the back end of your rotation is more than acceptable. That said, Hudson was probably due for a 4.5 FIP this year... $8.35 million for that back end of the rotation guy next year though, especially when you probably only have $15 million to spend total and have another 7 spots to fill, is a terrifically bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:51 AM) Meanwhile Merkin's piece on Jackson - everything we already know. http://scottmerkin.mlblogs.com/archives/20...ut_will_he.html Merkin is worthless for rumors/breaking news. Somehow Cowley is the only guy in town who does. What exactley does Phil Rogers do? When's the last trade he broke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:52 AM) ERA bites people in the ass once again. A 4.3 FIP starter for the past two years at the back end of your rotation is more than acceptable. That said, Hudson was probably due for a 4.5 FIP this year... That would be my biggest problem with this, not that Jackson is a horrible pitcher (though he's overpaid at $8.35M) but that you're giving up 6.3 years of Hudson (3.3-4.3 super cheap) for 1.3 of Jackson (0 cheap) when one could argue that they're comparable pitchers going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Going to a 1.5 hour meeting at 10. Will be anxious to see what, if anything, has transpired during that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 something big? wonder what that could be...berkman? greinke? ichiro? i can dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:53 AM) $8.35 million for that back end of the rotation guy next year though, especially when you probably only have $15 million to spend total and have another 7 spots to fill, is a terrifically bad idea. I understand that. But that 4.3 FIP is worth 3.5 WAR. 3.5 WAR @ $3.5 million/WAR is worth somewhere around $12 million. Not saying he should get that money, but it's not a huge overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 can someone tell me what Cowley said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:52 AM) Joe Mauer If San Diego wasn't in first place, I'd say AGon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:55 AM) can someone tell me what Cowley said? "Hold off on the Jackson trade folks, KW has something big cooking and if he gets it done Jackson trade is off." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I have to imagine, if the Sox did give up Hudson, we would be getting some decent amounts of cash back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Crossing my fingers for it being Prince Fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 09:56 AM) I have to imagine, if the Sox did give up Hudson, we would be getting some decent amounts of cash back. Not so much: BNightengale #mlb # If deal gets done, the White Sox would send Daniel Hudson and prospect for Jackson,and take on Jackson's entire $8.75 million salary 1 minute ago via web The D-Backs are in no position to include cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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