Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 The Jackson move doesnt look to be a flip at this point. That would mean the Sox would have a rotation of: Danks, Floyd, Peavy, MB and Jackson next year. That just seems like way to much salary for pitching. Floyd, Peavy and MB are locked up long term. If Jackson isnt moving, that would leave Danks (who hasnt signed an extension). If you could get an offensive beast and a solid pitcher for him, would you do it? I just am unsure how else the Sox are going to make a big move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much? doesnt he always? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Bowden tweets gone! Did he say too much? I was thinking that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) just curious, what were Jacksons numbers vs Minnesota while with Detroit? ERA near 6, not that it means anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) I like this Jackson trade. He's got great stuff and he's 26. He's not as bad as his ERA indicates. 4.27 FIP, .318 BABIP. His fly ball rate is only 30%. People overrated Hudson on this board, he was a no. 3 starter-at best. Ok and what is Jackson? a number 4 starter? and he costs about $8M more per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) Let's bring up another name. Daniel Cortes, or we can add Tyler Lumsden in for good measure. I remember when he was supposed to be around a Top 45-55 prospect in all of MILB. Hudson never came close to that level with most talent evaluators, let's be honest. You're trying to argue that KW does a good job of pitching evaluation by bringing up the trade for Mike Macdougal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Yeah, I'm not pissed because I was in love with Hudson. I'm pissed because we're paying 8 million for a small upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) just curious, what were Jacksons numbers vs Minnesota while with Detroit? 0-1 5.84 ERA in 2 starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Anyone else getting occasional "Internal Server Error" messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:30 PM) you missed something http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7412 OK, Chris Young isn't a pitcher that was in our system, drafted by us! (I'll be waiting on the link from someone we drafted in the 27th round in 1982 or something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that. This trade blows. This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:38 PM) Anyone else getting occasional "Internal Server Error" messages? Yup, server overload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:38 PM) This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move. I always thought Peavy was the white Javy Vazquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Anybody wanna fume about this trade in the chat? Might be a good time to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that. This trade blows. Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one. And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:39 PM) Yup, server overload. ah ok. Guess this is a little more popular than the moments leading up to the James announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 i love how ESPN has an article on how Boston is a boring team on the front page rather than anything on the trade deadline. Top Notch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that. This trade blows. Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one. And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that. This trade blows. Edwin Jackson has career a 1.51 WHIP in over 800 IP. I'd say that he's the overrated one. And even if Hudson is overrated, Jackson won't be filling our need for a cheap back-of-the-rotation pitcher for the next 3+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Jackson isn't a great move. If he stays, it does give us a MUCH better chance at reaching the post-season, and it adds one more pitcher in depth that could actually start a playoff game...as great as Freddy has been, I'm assuming nobody wants him starting Game 4 in NY or Tampa Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:41 PM) Jackson isn't a great move. If he stays, it does give us a MUCH better chance at reaching the post-season, and it adds one more pitcher in depth that could actually start a playoff game...as great as Freddy has been, I'm assuming nobody wants him starting Game 4 in NY or Tampa Bay. And at this point nobody wants Edwin Jackson starting that game either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) I like this Jackson trade. He's got great stuff and he's 26. He's not as bad as his ERA indicates. 4.27 FIP, .318 BABIP. His fly ball rate is only 30%. People overrated Hudson on this board, he was a no. 3 starter-at best. No way! No one on SoxTalk overrates our prospects. Hudson was going to easily be the next big thing, obviously. But yes, I DO think we overpaid, but not the blasphemous amount most here do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 You really f***ed us on this one, Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:40 PM) i love how ESPN has an article on how Boston is a boring team on the front page rather than anything on the trade deadline. Top Notch What else would ESPN focus on, they are an extension of NESN. Thank God for MLB Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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