IamtheHBOMB Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 To all those making comments about Manny’s character, consider which of the following you hate more. The patented Chicago White Sox second half fade / choke job to the Twins? OR PEDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (longshot7 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:44 PM) LOL. People who are against PEDs are such hypocrites. How many of you don't speed in your cars or look for loopholes when doing your taxes? Sure, it's okay to cheat on some things and not others. What bs.... Except that exploiting loopholes in one's tax returns is completely legal. Bad comparison. I don't have time to read all 100+ pages of this. Do the Sox owe Manny anything after this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Update from ChicagoBreakingSports.com Sox, Dodgers will use weekend to decide on Manny August 27, 2010 3:10 PM | 13 Comments By Dave van Dyck Now that the White Sox have been awarded the waiver claim on Manny Ramirez, according to several sources, they have until Tuesday to work out a deal with the Dodgers, who may have a clearer indication by then of whether they are in or out of playoff contention. Nothing will happen over the weekend, according to one source familiar with the proceedings, allowing both sides to assess where they are and exactly what they need. The Dodgers, who are five games out of the National League wild card race and play the Rockies this weekend, have the choice of making a deal or pulling Ramirez off waivers and keeping his $4 million-plus salary for the rest of the season. It is not clear of what details the White Sox and Dodgers have worked out previously, but the prospect Los Angles would receive back from the Sox would depend on how much of Ramirez's salary the Dodgers want to pay. In the original talks before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline, the Sox were to pay less than half the salary, according to sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:33 PM) I thought longshot was serious and you as well. my bad. In all seriousness, Greg, I like your posts. You certainly do state your opinion and generate some good discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) To all those making comments about Manny’s character, consider which of the following you hate more. The patented Chicago White Sox second half fade / choke job to the Twins? OR PEDs? PEDs. I can handle getting legitimately beat... that I can respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexiAlexei Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:26 PM) Please be true. Or at least don't give up any player in our system who has a chance to be a MLB standout. I'd much rather cheer on Manny in Oct. than watch the Twins get swept by the Yankees. (I realize having him won't guarantee anything, but it's a hell of a lot better of a chance with him) Manny is 100x better than Kotsay. I'm tired of seeing Kotsay choke with RISP. I'm actually just tired of seeing him suck at baseball in general, and it will be great to see someone as good as Manny in those positions instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) Except that exploiting loopholes in one's tax returns is completely legal. Bad comparison. I don't have time to read all 100+ pages of this. Do the Sox owe Manny anything after this season? About $3M in deferred salary from what I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) #mlb #dodgers GM Ned Colletti on moving trading Manny Ramirez: "Not inclined to move anyone so long as we have a chance.'' - Nightengale Weak positioning by Colletti. They're 11 games out with 3 teams in front of them. The Tigers, A's, Rockies, and Angels are closer to first place than they are. I know he needs to make things look a little better to in the hopes of squeezing a decent prospect out of the Sox, but... They have no real chance. Time to give it up Ned. Edited August 27, 2010 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 04:36 PM) About $3M in deferred salary from what I know. However, I believe that money would have to be set aside this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I honestly feel that the Sox are missing just a piece or two to be a contender for the whole thing. As the team is now, they might be able to catch up the Twins. With Manny, the chances are better, and they could even make it deep into the playoffs. I just look back at the 2005 team and wonder what it had that this team doesn't. I'm not saying it's the DH thing...that's only part of it. Hopefully Manny can make a big difference, because I think that's what the Sox need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:39 PM) I honestly feel that the Sox are missing just a piece or two to be a contender for the whole thing. As the team is now, they might be able to catch up the Twins. With Manny, the chances are better, and they could even make it deep into the playoffs. I just look back at the 2005 team and wonder what it had that this team doesn't. I'm not saying it's the DH thing...that's only part of it. Hopefully Manny can make a big difference, because I think that's what the Sox need. Hopefully Manny and a refreshed Putz and Thornton is all that it takes to get us over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 500 posts since I left for work this morning, do we know anything besides the Sox claimed him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:43 PM) 500 posts since I left for work this morning, do we know anything besides the Sox claimed him? nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) I hope some people think long and hard before making such posts iike this. People, don't out yourselves as people who condone cheating and all that. Don't make me lose faith in humanity more than I have. My god. Think before you post. CHEATING IS WRONG!!! Wank wank wank......... get off your goddamn high horse. Enjoy your sanctimonious all-clean LAST PLACE team. There's room for you on the North side, where they don't care where they finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) PEDs. I can handle getting legitimately beat... that I can respect. I can handle getting BEAT too, but what I've grown to hate is the White Sox continually gift wrapping the division title for our opponents (most years it is the Twins). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 shame marrioti is behind bars - would love to read his rant on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 This is going to take till Tuesday folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:36 PM) About $3M in deferred salary from what I know. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:38 PM) However, I believe that money would have to be set aside this season. Thanks. It's a gamble (is he even healthy yet?), but $7M isn't too ridiculous, as long as they don't give a top prospect in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:44 PM) This is going to take till Tuesday folks. Maybe after a Dodger loss tonight things start moving a bit more briskly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) Manny Ramirez-OF-Dodgers Aug. 27 - 4:37 pm et Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said the Dodgers are "not inclined" to trade anyone as long as they have a chance at the playoffs. What else do you expect him to say? The Dodgers have won three in a row and currently sit five games out of the Wild Card. It would be the wrong message to send to their fan base the players in their locker room if they gave up right now, even if there are a few teams ahead of them in the race. That being said, if they have a bad weekend against the Rockies, that could change everything. per Rotoworld. Edited August 27, 2010 by AWhiteSoxinNJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:45 PM) Maybe after a Dodger loss tonight things start moving a bit more briskly. Any sox fan that wants Manny should be cheering for the Rockies hard this series. Won't be hard for me as they are my second favorite MLB team. Go get em Ubaldo! Edited August 27, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) Thanks. It's a gamble (is he even healthy yet?), but $7M isn't too ridiculous, as long as they don't give a top prospect in return. It's acutally around 4. ~$1M left for this season and ~$3M in deferred salary making it ~4M total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 04:36 PM) Weak positioning by Colletti. They're 11 games out with 3 teams in front of them. The Tigers, A's, Rockies, and Angels are closer to first place than they are. They have no real chance. Time to give it up Ned. They are only 5 gms back in the wildcard they aren't out of it by a long shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (longshot7 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 08:44 PM) Wank wank wank......... get off your goddamn high horse. Enjoy your sanctimonious all-clean LAST PLACE team. There's room for you on the North side, where they don't care where they finish. No. I will ride the horse as much as I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:29 PM) Any chance KW gets impatient and sweetens the deal in order to get Manny here asap? He would really come in handy this weekend. I was thinking that too. Maybe so "Ok, we will pay all the contract, and throw in a player IF you make the trade today so we can have Manny against New York" This weekend series is huge, and having Manny for it would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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