Steve9347 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:42 AM) Roberto Clemente was one of the first Hispanic/Latin superstars who really fought with the media about the way his phonetic pronunciation was "overexaggerated" by the media in print interviews to deliberately make him look ill-educated. I think it's okay to write the words that someone is trying to say if they're very very clear...just not pronounced correctly. Remember Sosa's "beisbol has been berry berry good to me" line? I think there's a a fine line between accuracy and deliberately trying to make someone look stupid. When Manny's vernacular is portrayed basically exactly how Ozzie sounds, having them next to one another shows a lack of authenticity. If you're cleaning up Ozzie, you clean up Manny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:19 AM) Accordign to Guillen he would not play today if he was on a red eye. A red eye leaves at midnight not 6AM There are thousands of people that got on a plane at 6AM that are expected to work during their flight and as soon as they land. How does Fuentes end up with the Twins in time to save a game almost immediately and the Sox may now play 5 games after being awarded Manny rights. Nothing with this team is ever easy.....I understand it is not their fault. It would be their fault for not playing him today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:30 AM) It would be their fault for not playing him today. I don't see the Sox benching a guy who showed up to DH who would make $120,000 just sitting on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:55 AM) Peavy cleared up a spot on the 40-man, but they still need to make a move on the 25-man if Manny is to play today. Rosters expand tommorrow so then it won't matter. Rosters don't expand until September 1st, right, and don't the Sox need to have him on the roster for him to be part of a playoff roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:36 AM) Rosters don't expand until September 1st, right, and don't the Sox need to have him on the roster for him to be part of a playoff roster? He has to be on the roster as of today to be playoff eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Given that the Sox are now paying Manny over $100k a game, why didn't the Sox just line up a private flight if necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:38 AM) He has to be on the roster as of today to be playoff eligible. On the 40, or the 25? Because he is already on the 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:58 AM) Given that the Sox are now paying Manny over $100k a game, why didn't the Sox just line up a private flight if necessary? Exactly. Seems like a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:38 AM) He has to be on the roster as of today to be playoff eligible. Exactly, which means that somebody from the 25 man roster has to be put on the DL, sent back to the minors or waived? Can Kotsay be put on the DL for 1 day and brought back on September 1st when rosters expand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:19 AM) Accordign to Guillen he would not play today if he was on a red eye. A red eye leaves at midnight not 6AM There are thousands of people that got on a plane at 6AM that are expected to work during their flight and as soon as they land. How does Fuentes end up with the Twins in time to save a game almost immediately and the Sox may now play 5 games after being awarded Manny rights. Nothing with this team is ever easy.....I understand it is not their fault. It has been said thousands of times. This team has no sense of urgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 11:01 AM) Exactly, which means that somebody from the 25 man roster has to be put on the DL, sent back to the minors or waived? Can Kotsay be put on the DL for 1 day and brought back on September 1st when rosters expand? You can't DL someone for 1 day, he'd have to be on for 15. The best suggestion I have seen is to option someone down to Bristol, whose season ends in a few days, then bring them back (you can get around the 10 day option rule if they are assigned to a minor league team and that team's season ends). Probably would have to be a reliever, someone new, like Santos or Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 11:07 AM) You can't DL someone for 1 day, he'd have to be on for 15. The best suggestion I have seen is to option someone down to Bristol, whose season ends in a few days, then bring them back (you can get around the 10 day option rule if they are assigned to a minor league team and that team's season ends). Probably would have to be a reliever, someone new, like Santos or Sale. Santos is out of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 10:58 AM) On the 40, or the 25? Because he is already on the 40. 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 11:07 AM) You can't DL someone for 1 day, he'd have to be on for 15. The best suggestion I have seen is to option someone down to Bristol, whose season ends in a few days, then bring them back (you can get around the 10 day option rule if they are assigned to a minor league team and that team's season ends). Probably would have to be a reliever, someone new, like Santos or Sale. Harrell or Torrse would work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 It should be Sale since he is probably unavailable today from pitching last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:32 PM) It should be Sale since he is probably unavailable today from pitching last night. I'd guess Harrell or Torres. Oz won't want to remove his only lefty reliever, even for one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:32 AM) It should be Sale since he is probably unavailable today from pitching last night. Uhhh, I want Sale on the post-season roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:58 AM) Given that the Sox are now paying Manny over $100k a game, why didn't the Sox just line up a private flight if necessary? You would think a player looking for a new contract would make better efforts in chance to prove himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 11:18 AM) Harrell or Torrse would work too. It would have to be one of those two, but given the state of the bullpen, wouldn't it make sense to just DL one of these guys so that they are eligible for the post season roster? I know we're in serious trouble if we have to use these guys in the October, but everyone is dropping like flys and we made just need arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 It will be Torres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I thought sending down Sale and bringing him up when Barons season ends would guarantee him a spot on the playoff roster. Sale must be on the roster ! Send Torres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Any word on Mannys' flight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:06 PM) Any word on Mannys' flight? He'll be at the stadium by 2. The "plan" is for him to sit tonight, but that may change depending on what he says to Ozzie. Just heard this on ESPN 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksox13 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) He'll be at the stadium by 2. The "plan" is for him to sit tonight, but that may change depending on what he says to Ozzie. Just heard this on ESPN 1000. What is wrong with this team? Down four games with just 30 left to play. Where's the sense of urgency? Manny will be at the stadium four hours before the game starts. Get him in the damn lineup Ozzie. He has to go up to the plate and swing the bat a total of about 15 times and he's not playing the field. I think he's capable of doing that on four or five hours of sleep. Not to mention they are paying him $120,000 per game for the rest of the season. I feel like I'm listening to Lovie Smith after that Bears third preseason game. No sense of urgency at all! Edited August 31, 2010 by hawksox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 QUOTE (hawksox13 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:20 PM) What is wrong with this team? Down four games with just 30 left to play. Where's the sense of urgency? Manny will be at the stadium four hours before the game starts. Get him in the damn lineup Ozzie. He has to go up to the plate and swing the bat a total of about 15 times and he's not playing the field. I think he's capable of doing that on four or five hours of sleep. Not to mention they are paying him $120,000 per game for the rest of the season. I feel like I'm listening to Lovie Smith after that Bears third preseason game. No sense of urgency at all! Hey they got a DH within 5 months of opening day, isnt that urgent enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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