White Sox Acquire Manny Ramirez

[Frank_Thomas]

The only way the Rangers have a better shot was of we nor anyone else before us passed on Manny, which didn't happen seeing the reports saying multiple teams claimed Manny ad the Rays an Yanks not being one of those teams. it's pretty obvious one or more NL teams claimed him plus us and most likely the Rangers.

 

I knew these was doomed with all the hype.the sox are deaperate for attendance and put our name out there to get ppl excited if we got him, great, if not KW saves face and says he tried. Same old BS with this administration. I'm disappointed this didn't happen.

[BigSqwert]

The only way the Rangers have a better shot was of we nor anyone else before us passed on Manny, which didn't happen seeing the reports saying multiple teams claimed Manny ad the Rays an Yanks not being one of those teams. it's pretty obvious one or more NL teams claimed him plus us and most likely the Rangers.

 

I knew these was doomed with all the hype.the sox are deaperate for attendance and put our name out there to get ppl excited if we got him, great, if not KW saves face and says he tried. Same old BS with this administration. I'm disappointed this didn't happen.

You can't have that type of attitude just a few days away from your big ceremony. Come on Frank.

[Harry Chappas]

It could be worse the Sox could have gotten Lance Berkman.

[SoxFan562004]

The only way the Rangers have a better shot was of we nor anyone else before us passed on Manny, which didn't happen seeing the reports saying multiple teams claimed Manny ad the Rays an Yanks not being one of those teams. it's pretty obvious one or more NL teams claimed him plus us and most likely the Rangers.

 

I knew these was doomed with all the hype.the sox are deaperate for attendance and put our name out there to get ppl excited if we got him, great, if not KW saves face and says he tried. Same old BS with this administration. I'm disappointed this didn't happen.

I'm not sure if the reports say that or they say they moved on and knew they had no shot... two different things, they could have claimed him but friendly calls to other GMs made it obvious they were trumped

[NorthSideSox72]

I knew these was doomed with all the hype.the sox are deaperate for attendance and put our name out there to get ppl excited if we got him, great, if not KW saves face and says he tried. Same old BS with this administration. I'm disappointed this didn't happen.

Ugh.

 

Seriously people, do you really think KW is going to concoct some sort of complex leak to put the Sox on Manny, when doing so and failing makes him and the team look WORSE, not better? I just have to laugh at conspiracy theories where the conspirators have no motivation to do what is suspected of them.

 

If the Sox are desperate for attendence, you know what they do? ACTUALLY TRY TO GET HIM. Or alternately, get someone else. Or just ignore it. The absolute last thing that makes any sense to do is orchestrate the appearance they tried, when they didn't.

 

 

[hogan873]

One has to wonder if the Sox even placed a claim on Manny. All this talk might be a moot point...

[hogan873]

It could be worse the Sox could have gotten Lance Berkman.

True. The Yankees got screwed there...serves them right!

[SoxFan562004]

I knew these was doomed with all the hype.the sox are deaperate for attendance and put our name out there to get ppl excited if we got him, great, if not KW saves face and says he tried. Same old BS with this administration. I'm disappointed this didn't happen.

Desperate for attendance so they hyped a name they had no intention of getting and letting fans down? Makes zero sense to me.

 

Not every move they want to pull off can happen, the Sox have made a lot of big moves during KWs regime... everyone of them? Of course not, even the NYY don't make every move they want to.

[chisox2334]

ya cause kenny didnt trade for berkman only be rejected... we be in same boat if he did accept

[Harry Chappas]

One has to wonder if the Sox even placed a claim on Manny. All this talk might be a moot point...

 

If the Twins, Rangers, Rays, Red Sox or Yankees get him the White Sox will be roasted to no end.

[NorthSideSox72]

ya cause kenny didnt trade for berkman only be rejected... we be in same boat if he did accept

Definitely dodged a bullet there. And I'll admit I was on the berkman bandwagon too, I wanted him on the Sox.

 

[justBLAZE]

Kenny is either sure on landing Manny or is targeting someone else that we have no idea about.

 

He had to know there is a chance an NL team might claim Manny eliminating us from getting him.

 

If he's willing to let this team be without any offesive addition then I put the season on his hands, and want him gone if we don't make the playoffs.

 

 

[chisox2334]

kenny is looking elsewhere and wouldn't be suprised if just ends up being bullpen help

[NorthSideSox72]

Kenny is either sure on landing Manny or is targeting someone else that we have no idea about.

 

He had to know there is a chance an NL team might claim Manny eliminating us from getting him.

 

If he's willing to let this team be without any offesive addition then I put the season on his hands, and want him gone if we don't make the playoffs.

One thing I'd bet the farm on, is that Kenny had multiple layers in whatever his plan was. If he wanted Manny, he had some other idea in mind as a backup.

 

Of course, that all said, if there were no other upgrade bats even available to him, then there is nothing he can do. If the best he can get is someone nearly as bad as Kotsay, then he has to stand pat, even though i am sure that is not his Plan A.

 

The mistake with this offense wasn't what happens now - it was going into the season to begin with, with a DH like Kotsay. KW wanted another bat, put the decision on Ozzie (which was KW's mistake), and then Ozzie was Ozzie and made a really bad call. That's where things fell apart, before Opening Day even happened.

[NorthSideSox72]

kenny is looking elsewhere and wouldn't be suprised if just ends up being bullpen help

Which is not a bad idea - getting a bullpen arm I mean.

 

[justBLAZE]

 

SI_JonHeyman

 

in continuing guessing game, i hear #rangers did not win claim. neither did the couple teams behind them in picking order.

[chisox2334]

in continuing guessing game, i hear #rangers did not win claim. neither did the couple teams behind them in picking order.

 

from heyman

[BigSqwert]

And why is Laroche not even in the picture? Does anyone think Kenny even asked AZ what they'd be willing to trade him for?

[NorthSideSox72]

SI_JonHeyman

 

in continuing guessing game, i hear #rangers did not win claim. neither did the couple teams behind them in picking order.

If he's right (who knows?), then its likely the Sox or an NL team.

 

[SoxFan562004]

in continuing guessing game, i hear #rangers did not win claim. neither did the couple teams behind them in picking order.

 

from heyman

so it has to be the White Sox or NL'er

[NorthSideSox72]

And why is Laroche not even in the picture? Does anyone think Kenny even asked AZ what they'd be willing to trade him for?

Possible they inquired about him, and got an Unreasonable reply back. I have no idea.

 

[Frank_Thomas]

I think you guys misunderstood me I was being critical of KW for making his plans so public about Manny. I understand he has limited control over the media but we know and seen he works best when it's quiet.

 

The attendance part was me simplying pointing out the need for a move like Manny of Hoffman (push for 600 saves) because attendance has blown this season. Were 3.5 outand there was barely anyone at yest. Game and it's the end of August. I was critical of KWs methods this whole season; startting with the Thome decision, blowing gettig a hitter at the deadline, the openess of the drama between him and the guillen family, and now Manny. It's not been like him and the team has suffered because of it.

[NorthSideSox72]

I think you guys misunderstood me I was being critical of KW for making his plans so public about Manny. I understand he has limited control over the media but we know and seen he works best when it's quiet.

 

The attendance part was me simplying pointing out the need for a move like Manny of Hoffman (push for 600 saves) because attendance has blown this season. Were 3.5 outand there was barely anyone at yest. Game and it's the end of August. I was critical of KWs methods this whole season; startting with the Thome decision, blowing gettig a hitter at the deadline, the openess of the drama between him and the guillen family, and now Manny. It's not been like him and the team has suffered because of it.

Ozzie deserves about 80% of the blame for the DH debacle, because it was his call. KW does get some though, for letting Ozzie even have that decision.

 

[Frank_Thomas]

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 27 at 1:06pm CST]

1:06pm: The Rangers did not win the claim, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter link).

 

12:55pm: Neither the Rays nor the Yankees claimed Manny, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter).

 

[SoxFan562004]

anyone know how waivers work as far as the 48 hour of claims go? that could be 2 games per team, in a real close race how they determine who has the superior record? At the end of the 48 hours I assume.