AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Still a good chance to acquire players this way. The trade deadline isn't really over till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) I expected another 'This season is over' thread from you :> I think Kenny will make a play for Manny, sooner than later. Edited July 31, 2010 by justBLAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It just means we have to trade low level guys. Viciedo, Torres, Flowers, Santos, Beckham and probably Nunez are all off the market unless we're dealing with the Orioles. Yeah, not easy to stay optimistic. Looks like we could just put all our eggs in the Manny basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 So if the Manny thing doesn't work then who else is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 06:47 PM) So if the Manny thing doesn't work then who else is there? Name a bad contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearingPro Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Very cool idea starting this thread...some notable transactions have occured during this period. Of course we all know about Alex Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Anyone think Werth could clear waivers after Victorino comes back off the DL and Brown shows he can contribute? I think Werth could be a decent pickup. Everytime I check the box score for Philly Werth usually has 2-3 hits every game along with 1-3 RBIs. He could be our RF and Quentin can move exclusively to DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (BearingPro @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 10:48 PM) Very cool idea starting this thread...some notable transactions have occured during this period. Of course we all know about Alex Rios. Hopefully the guy we "might" get won't be as bad as Rios was that year he was claimed in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I wonder if the offer KW gave to LA was insulting enough to where if KW puts a claim in for him they pull him back and refuse to deal with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) I expect to see the Cubs put a lot of their big contracts through waivers in a few weeks. The problem is that the Twins and the Tigers could easily block us and be better for it. Edited August 1, 2010 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 11:58 PM) Anyone think Werth could clear waivers after Victorino comes back off the DL and Brown shows he can contribute? I think Werth could be a decent pickup. Everytime I check the box score for Philly Werth usually has 2-3 hits every game along with 1-3 RBIs. He could be our RF and Quentin can move exclusively to DH. I would think not seeing as how he's young, cheap ($7M this year, maybe $2.5M left when placed on waivers), comes with zero long term commitment and is one of the most productive outfielders in the game of baseball. (5th in wOBA) Also keep in mind that any young player we trade can not be on the 40 man roster as they're not going to get past the worst teams in the AL without getting claimed on the waiver wire. Only guys like Morel, Gilmore and Jor. Danks can be involved in trades. The likes of Flowers, Torres, Viciedo or Santos can not be traded unless it's to say the Orioles, so even if a very good hitter did clear waivers a few of our most desirable prospects would be off limits. Also don't expect any great or even good players with decent contracts to clear waivers, they should all be claimed rather quickly and any NL players would have to clear the entire NL and the 9 AL teams with worse records than us (possibly 8 if the Twins pass us) before we get the opportunity to put in a claim. Meaning guys like Dunn and LaRoche shouldn't get any where close to us, I don't foresee them being in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 ADAM LAROCHE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 02:06 AM) ADAM LAROCHE! There is no chance that Adam Laroche makes it to us in waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 01:08 AM) There is no chance that Adam Laroche makes it to us in waivers. I agree, because it goes through the league the player in is first (NL), and then it goes to the AL, all while in the order of worst record first. So we would be like....what the 25-28th team to get a shot to grab him? I can't see us picking up anyone through waivers unless they.... A.) Have a massive contract B.) Are not a very good player. Because if it's an NL team, then we have to wait for 25-28 other teams to make their decision to pass, or if it's an AL team, then 8-11 other teams get a shot. Of all the people we have discussed so far (Werth, LaRoche, Manny, Dunn), they are ALL NL players. Edited August 1, 2010 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Two AL guys who would most likely clear waivers are Vernon Wells and Jose Guillen. I'd rather platoon Viciedo and Teahen than see the Sox have to pay one of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I think last year was one of those "one time happening for every 10 years" type of thing. I dont think we will have anything even close to that magnitude of impact move such as the talents of Rios. We got a beast with him and it was extremely lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Ditto here. However thinking about it and Ozzie doing it are two different things. He loves the Kotsay/Jones platoon, but with Tank hitting the cover off the ball Oz may have no choice. Teahen started well in the minors tonight as well. Those two are pretty solid and could contend and hopefuly win a division. I'm going to say this now, I think the EJax trade will be looked at as one of KWs best by this time next season. I have a feeling after a few bullpen sessions with coop and a start or two to fine tune him, EJax will be FILTHY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (TomPickle @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 02:27 AM) Two AL guys who would most likely clear waivers are Vernon Wells and Jose Guillen. I'd rather platoon Viciedo and Teahen than see the Sox have to pay one of those two. in response to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 ABANDON ALL HOPE Gary Matthews, Jr. Carlos Lee Vernon Wells Lyle Overbay Alphonso Soriano K. Fukudome Aaron Rowand Travis Hafner Todd Helton Jose Guillen Manny Ramirez Milton Bradley One name that intrigues me a bit is Torii Hunter, but his contract is simply too expensive for Torii and Alex to be playing in the same outfield...simply because I would love to beat the Twins with a former Twin, but it will never happen. But it would have been fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 03:42 AM) ABANDON ALL HOPE Indeed. Kenny failed to get us the bat we needed and we won't be getting it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 12:32 AM) I expect to see the Cubs put a lot of their big contracts through waivers in a few weeks. The problem is that the Twins and the Tigers could easily block us and be better for it. Which one of those big contracts would you like to pick up? Fukudome, Soriano, Zambrano, Ramirez??? I'm sure the Twins or Tigers would gladly let one of those guys pass through waivers if we are gonna try to pay their salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) Well, the Tigers would have possibly made a play for Aramis Ramirez if they weren't already on the hook for Peralta... But I don't think they're convinced they can stay with the Sox and Twins while missing four key components in Inge, Ordonez, Guillen and Zumaya. Edited August 1, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:56 AM) Well, the Tigers would have possibly made a play for Aramis Ramirez if they weren't already on the hook for Peralta... But I don't think they're convinced they can stay with the Sox and Twins while missing four key components in Inge, Ordonez, Guillen and Zumaya. Dombrowski said they were on the verge of something huge and he was crushed when it fell apart. I think they would still give it a shot. Maggs getting hurt was a $15 million present to their organization. I have no idea why the Sox don't give Viciedo a shot at DHing. Worst case scenerio he hits like Kotsay/Jones. Edited August 1, 2010 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Another thing people have to keep in mind is if the White Sox are sending anyone back in a trade, if its a player on the 40 man roster, they must clear waivers as well, so a guy like Flowers, for as bad as he's been, has very little chance unless he's going to Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:15 AM) Indeed. Kenny failed to get us the bat we needed and we won't be getting it this year. Please explain this logic to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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