SoxFan562004 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) So what happens when Ozzie does or says something to upset him while he's here? He go into pouty, fake injury mode? yeah, but they said they won't claim him and take 100%, it would be favorable to them, so probably in a position to cut him and be in the same bad position with DH they are now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) So what happens when Ozzie does or says something to upset him while he's here? He go into pouty, fake injury mode? I don't think he would do that here. Ozzie will keep him in check. They have a very good relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 So is he on waivers yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) So is he on waivers yet? Until he's actually on your team, you never know anything official. They're forbidden to talk about it. With him on the DL and the Dodgers having just added players, they might wait a bit for him to come off and to see if they can make 1 last run at the West before trying to drop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) Until he's actually on your team, you never know anything official. All this s*** confuses me. Dunn was announced to be on waivers today. Did the Nats openly announce that or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) All this s*** confuses me. Dunn was announced to be on waivers today. Did the Nats openly announce that or something? A club probably leaked it. You won't hear about a lot of names on waivers, just a few that get leaked by a opposing clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:34 PM) All this s*** confuses me. Dunn was announced to be on waivers today. Did the Nats openly announce that or something? It's all done by leaks. Every GM in baseball should have access to the waiver wire reports, so you kinda know when most of the names are put out there because teams will leak them, but teams can also leak false reports. Last year, the reports were that Rios was claimed by an unnamed team and we spent about 24 hours guessing it could be the Sox before it leaked out of the Sox front office that yeah, they'd put in a claim on him. The entire process is supposed to be secret, but there's way too many people involved for it to stay that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Manny doesn't have a NTC I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 You can waive waiver claims with an NTC? I know you can reject a trade, but once a team claims you, you probably have to be pulled back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) A club probably leaked it. You won't hear about a lot of names on waivers, just a few that get leaked by a opposing clubs. After the "negotiations" went to crap, I wonder if it was us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) You can waive waiver claims with an NTC? I know you can reject a trade, but once a team claims you, you probably have to be pulled back. Yes, if you are protected with a NTC, you don't have to go. Edited August 3, 2010 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Any possibility that the Dodgers added salary at the deadline with the intention of trading Manny in August? IMO, Manny is one of the few potential impact bats that should pass through waivers. Seems like his value would only increase in August with guys like Dunn being restricted to a single trading partner. I'm not suggesting the Dodgers would get a ton for him, but I don't think it's far-fetched for them to get $3 million and a prospect in return for him at this point, which clearly they couldn't get in July. Maybe that was their plan all along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:54 PM) Any possibility that the Dodgers added salary at the deadline with the intention of trading Manny in August? IMO, Manny is one of the few potential impact bats that should pass through waivers. Seems like his value would only increase in August with guys like Dunn being restricted to a single trading partner. I'm not suggesting the Dodgers would get a ton for him, but I don't think it's far-fetched for them to get $3 million and a prospect in return for him at this point, which clearly they couldn't get in July. Maybe that was their plan all along? The deadline really meant nothing because nobody was going to claim him. I don't see how his price would go up. The Sox offered $1 million in salary relief and nothing else. I doubt they would go much higher if they would go higher at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 06:02 PM) The deadline really meant nothing because nobody was going to claim him. I don't see how his price would go up. The Sox offered $1 million in salary relief and nothing else. I doubt they would go much higher if they would go higher at all. Before the trading deadline, there were other impact bats available like Dunn, Berkman, etc. There are not going to be a lot of possible impact players that clear through waivers (at least ones without mulityear commitments). The market is radically different now than it was in July. Honestly, who is a more attractive bat that you expect to clear waivers? If Manny is indeed the top option now, then his value will be higher than it was before the deadline. Also, the offer the Sox made ($1 million and no prospects) was a complete joke. They wanted to see how desperate the Dodgers were to move him and clearly they got their answer. I don't think it's crazy to think that the Sox would add an extra $2 million and some low A ball prospect to if they really want to get Manny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Linebrink over his last 11 outings: 10.2 IP 8H, 2BB, 8K, 0.937 WHIP, 0.84 ERA He's good now, go ahead claim him off waivers. You're getting a good arm. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 08:17 PM) Linebrink over his last 11 outings: 10.2 IP 8H, 2BB, 8K, 0.937 WHIP, 0.84 ERA He's good now, go ahead claim him off waivers. You're getting a good arm. Do it. Haha....I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 08:17 PM) Linebrink over his last 11 outings: 10.2 IP 8H, 2BB, 8K, 0.937 WHIP, 0.84 ERA He's good now, go ahead claim him off waivers. You're getting a good arm. Do it. We all know Linebrink is not going anywhere. He is Peavy's buddy and has helped Floyd. Good clubhouse guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:48 PM) Yes, if you are protected with a NTC, you don't have to go. But you can't go through waivers again...right? So it's still possible to block us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) We all know Linebrink is not going anywhere. He is Peavy's buddy and has helped Floyd. Good clubhouse guy. We need to stop keeping guys on the roster for the clubhouse and make them coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Mannywood Credit: AP Source: Los Angeles Times Finishing his Dodgers career in "silence and pain," Manny Ramirez' comfortable corner of Chavez Ravine is history. Mannywood is now Deadwood, the Dodgers ill-conceived tribute to [Ramirez] serving as a metaphor for the man himself. The two previously rollicking sections in the left-field corner at Dodger Stadium now have the hollow look of a party gone bad. "Manny had us going for a while," said Oscar Chavez, 28, celebrating his birthday there Tuesday night with eight easily obtained tickets for his family. "But now he's done." And the Dodgers, it seems, are finally done with him, having torn down the Mannywood signs during the last trip, replacing them with billboards advertising an insurance company and the Dodgers' flagship radio station. Just a follow up post on Manny. Seems they pulled Mannywood cause they were sick of Manny not to pay the additional 7 Mil taken on at the deadline like someone had suggested. It looks like more and more the Dogers are done with ManRam. IMO it's just a question to when he goes and which team claims him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...ce=MLBHeadlines He's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 10:08 AM) http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...ce=MLBHeadlines He's not going anywhere. I guess Kotsay is our DH the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 10:09 AM) I guess Kotsay is our DH the rest of the way. There will be other bats available too. Or, the second worst case scenario probably involves Teahen taking over for Kotsay. Of course, the worst case scenario involves Kotsay remaining the DH for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Not to mention you can trade guys who are on the DL (see Jake Peavy). I don't think this says manny is staying by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Not to mention you can trade guys who are on the DL (see Jake Peavy). I don't think this says manny is staying by any means. Jake Peavy was traded because the Sox wanted him for this year and the years to come, and they were hopeful that he may be able to contribute come late August (that obviously didn't happen, but he did make it back). Manny is a free agent after this season, so he's not going to be acquired by anyone if the team doesn't know if he's going to be healthy or not. It does (virtually) assure him of clearing waivers though, so a late August addition may be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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