iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 The article states players on the DL cannot be placed on waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 So Manny is actually hurt...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 10:39 AM) So Manny is actually hurt...? I think he is. He was pulled out of the middle of a game at one point after awkwardly rounding 2nd base I believe. I really don't believe this crap B&B were saying about him not being hurt. I do believe we would be one of the teams he would like to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I just dont see the Sox committing $7mill to him for the rest of the year. If they get him it will be because he cleared waivers and the Dodgers threw in a bunch of cash. There was a reason why the Sox didnt offer anything for him earlier, because they dont feel like he was worth that money or talent in return for the 6 weeks he gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 12:45 PM) I think he is. He was pulled out of the middle of a game at one point after awkwardly rounding 2nd base I believe. I really don't believe this crap B&B were saying about him not being hurt. I do believe we would be one of the teams he would like to play for. He's likely a long-time steroid abuser who's now off the juice. A pulled muscle for him should be as common as waking up in the morning for us or the towel drill for a Cubs pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 There is a bright side to an injury setback...if Manny were to return this weekend and the Dodgers reeled off 4-5 wins in a row, they might decide they were close enough to run with it. If Manny's back on August 20th, it's possible the Dodgers could finally consider themselves to be out of it by then and might be more willing to deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:00 AM) He's likely a long-time steroid abuser who's now off the juice. A pulled muscle for him should be as common as waking up in the morning for us or the towel drill for a Cubs pitcher. He's also a 38 year old malcontent whose had everything come easily to him because he is so incredibly talented. I doubt he puts in the time to put himself into game shape like Jim Thome does. I don't really put much into the steroids thing. That may be a contributing factor, but let's not act as though this would be that abnormal for a player his age who had never touched steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 01:11 PM) He's also a 38 year old malcontent whose had everything come easily to him because he is so incredibly talented. I doubt he puts in the time to put himself into game shape like Jim Thome does. I don't really put much into the steroids thing. That may be a contributing factor, but let's not act as though this would be that abnormal for a player his age who had never touched steroids. Honestly, everything I've heard about ManRam suggests that his workouts are crazy (he supposedly got some of his supply through a gym right down the street from me when I was in Pasadena) which is entirely consistent with him being a juicer; you can pull off some crazy workouts. I think he used to get in great shape because the roids allowed him to do workouts that mere mortals couldn't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:13 AM) Honestly, everything I've heard about ManRam suggests that his workouts are crazy (he supposedly got some of his supply through a gym right down the street from me when I was in Pasadena) which is entirely consistent with him being a juicer; you can pull off some crazy workouts. I think he used to get in great shape because the roids allowed him to do workouts that mere mortals couldn't do. Interesting. It's difficult to see his body shape because his uniform has always been so incredibly baggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 01:16 PM) It's difficult to see his body shape because his uniform has always been so incredibly baggy. There's a reason for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:47 AM) I just dont see the Sox committing $7mill to him for the rest of the year. If they get him it will be because he cleared waivers and the Dodgers threw in a bunch of cash. There was a reason why the Sox didnt offer anything for him earlier, because they dont feel like he was worth that money or talent in return for the 6 weeks he gives you. Why would the dodgers throw in any cash? If we claimed him they could dump his whole salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:39 AM) Why would the dodgers throw in any cash? If we claimed him they could dump his whole salary. He's saying if he went unclaimed. If he goes unclaimed, they can negotiate with us, or anyone else, just like a regular trade that happens before the waiver deadline on July 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 12:39 PM) Why would the dodgers throw in any cash? If we claimed him they could dump his whole salary. If anyone was willing to pick up his whole salary, there would have been a deadline deal between the Dodgers and that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 02:09 PM) If anyone was willing to pick up his whole salary, there would have been a deadline deal between the Dodgers and that team. Not necessarily....not if the Dodgers think they're still in this thing. I would strongly bet that if the Dodgers had come back and said "well give you Manny for some A-baller if you pick up the $6 million he has left for this season", KW would have wound up taking it. Otherwise, there's no reason to even ask about Manny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 American League Team Claims Papelbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 05:51 PM) American League Team Claims Papelbon I think the Red Sox would be more than willing to deal Papelbon. Daniel Bard has been pretty dominant this year and is under their control and much cheaper for the next 5 or 6 years. Papelbon is due another big arbitration number next year, then becomes a FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 07:12 PM) I think the Red Sox would be more than willing to deal Papelbon. Daniel Bard has been pretty dominant this year and is under their control and much cheaper for the next 5 or 6 years. Papelbon is due another big arbitration number next year, then becomes a FA. The Red Sox aren't going to give him up for beans though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 picked this up from motownsports.com ....who knows if its true...."Dickerson on radio with the claim the Dunn has cleared waivers...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 04:51 PM) American League Team Claims Papelbon How could this happen with salary he makes?!? What about the economic devastation?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 09:06 PM) picked this up from motownsports.com ....who knows if its true...."Dickerson on radio with the claim the Dunn has cleared waivers...." shaddup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Papelbon rumored to be claimed by Detroit or Anaheim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 09:08 PM) How could this happen with salary he makes?!? What about the economic devastation?!? Because there is 0.0% chance of Boston letting him go. That and Papelbon isn't a washed up, overpaid drama queen like Manny is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) picked this up from motownsports.com ....who knows if its true...."Dickerson on radio with the claim the Dunn has cleared waivers...." I wonder from what I've heard is true about teams not wanting to even deal with Rizzo in discussions anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 10:58 PM) I wonder from what I've heard is true about teams not wanting to even deal with Rizzo in discussions anymore... If that was the case, someone would have claimed him out of spite, just to screw over Rizzo. You know he won't let him go for nothing, so you put in the claim, just to make sure he can't trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 11:13 PM) If that was the case, someone would have claimed him out of spite, just to screw over Rizzo. You know he won't let him go for nothing, so you put in the claim, just to make sure he can't trade him. Yea but he can easily just pull him back. The Nats are still trying to resign this guy, and they won't lose him for nothing. They will gladly take the Type A picks and move on if it came to that. They have been trying to re-sign him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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