Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I'll miss Huddy. Jackson makes us better this year and has some upside, but Huddy was a nice piece and there is no denying the Sox paid a steap steap price. I don't know if I agree with the trade, I understand the idea of getting Jackson, but we'll see what happens. I'll root for Huddy and I'll root for Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 07:36 PM) I'll root for Edwin. I really hope he proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 This game was played in Citi Field in NYC, which is a pitcher's park. OTOH...we can kinda make the "going to a stronger league and to an even better power hitter's park" argument for why Jackson isn't going to improve. Except Jackson has been pretty good against the AL in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 05:51 PM) Huddy also hit a 2-run double. Good way to start off for a new team. Not to nitpick, but it was a single with an error on the throw home, which allowed him to advance to second. I think the other RBI must have come on a ground out or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 07:18 PM) Not to nitpick, but it was a single with an error on the throw home, which allowed him to advance to second. I think the other RBI must have come on a ground out or something. Ahhh... I got the info from an Arizona newspaper. Hometown spin I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 08:31 PM) Ahhh... I got the info from an Arizona newspaper. Hometown spin I guess. Maybe they scored it generously, I dunno...I was watching the game though and it was a ground ball up the middle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 1, 2010 -> 06:24 PM) This game was played in Citi Field in NYC, which is a pitcher's park. OTOH...we can kinda make the "going to a stronger league and to an even better power hitter's park" argument for why Jackson isn't going to improve. Oh, I thought he was referring to the trade itself and not just this particular game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 figured itd be a good time to bump this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Second start... 7.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB's, 4 K's. 96 pitches, 63 strikes. He and Garland had a nice little pitchers duel. Hudson lowered his ERA overall to 3.73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hudson has done real good with Arizona. Two very well pitched games in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 10:38 AM) Hudson has done real good with Arizona. Two very well pitched games in a row He was too much to give up, considering AZ was selling anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 12:05 PM) He was too much to give up, considering AZ was selling anyway. nobody outside the White Sox and other MLB front offices know how Daniel Hudson was valued at. Edited August 7, 2010 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 01:30 PM) nobody outside the White Sox and other MLB front offices know how Daniel Hudson was valued at. Doesn't mean we can't have that opinion based on our evaluation of his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 11:38 AM) Hudson has done real good with Arizona. Two very well pitched games in a row and Javy Vazquez looked great for the Braves. There's a lot of weight to the NL vs. AL argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 On the flip side, if our prospects pan out for other teams it makes our minor leagues look better around the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) YOu just can't compare numbers. Pitching in that division vs pitching in the AL, especially when there is absolutely NO pressure on Hudson like there was in his starts here. He can just let it all go and go out and pitch with Arizona because they aren't going to be in anything anytime soon. So it's a really nice situation for him. Edited August 7, 2010 by jphat007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 06:24 PM) YOu just can't compare numbers. Pitching in that division vs pitching in the AL, especially when there is absolutely NO pressure on Hudson like there was in his starts here. He can just let it all go and go out and pitch with Arizona because they aren't going to be in anything anytime soon. So it's a really nice situation for him. However, Edwin Jackson struggled mightily under that same situation. All the excuses that were made for why Jackson was so bad (Arizona air, bad Arizona defense) count too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 02:39 AM) Second start... 7.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB's, 4 K's. 96 pitches, 63 strikes. He and Garland had a nice little pitchers duel. Hudson lowered his ERA overall to 3.73 Would you look at that... I hope EJax outpitches him on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 08:27 PM) However, Edwin Jackson struggled mightily under that same situation. All the excuses that were made for why Jackson was so bad (Arizona air, bad Arizona defense) count too. That's fine. I'm just saying you can't say, "hey look at Hudson, he'd be awesome to have in our rotation now." Because the situations are so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 As much as I have been rooting for Hudson to do well, I am starting to turn against him because I am getting a little sick of my Dbacks friend texting me telling me "Thanks for giving us Hudson" I really hope EJax can dominate, so it will shut his ass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 10:02 AM) As much as I have been rooting for Hudson to do well, I am starting to turn against him because I am getting a little sick of my Dbacks friend texting me telling me "Thanks for giving us Hudson" I really hope EJax can dominate, so it will shut his ass up. I'll take Jackson and a pennant race over Hudson and irrelevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 09:20 AM) I'll take Jackson and a pennant race over Hudson and irrelevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 QUOTE (G&T @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) I'll take Jackson and a pennant race over Hudson and irrelevance. But Hudson and a pennant race you don't want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) But Hudson and a pennant race you don't want? Balta had some great posts in this thread IMO. I think we overpaid for a salary dump player, but hopefully Jackson will continue to do well. He did pretty well in that first start for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 11:33 PM) Balta had some great posts in this thread IMO. I think we overpaid for a salary dump player, but hopefully Jackson will continue to do well. He did pretty well in that first start for us. No one will be happier about Jackson shutting me up than me. We really need a stopper today to avoid losing 3/4 to the lowly Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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