What set Ozzie off this time?

[southsider2k5]

And it hasn't exactly been known for creating a generation of well adjusted, mature, intelligent players, has it?

 

It still is an advantage to the kids in the Domincan who get to pick their teams, and pit all of them against each other. It is sure and advantage over having to wait until you are 18 to get paid here, and only getting to talk to the team that drafted you.

[caulfield12]

Does anyone have the exact quotes from Ozzie this time?

 

At ESPN, Ozzie's complaining about all the media attention the Twins are getting for coming to town, there's a quote from his wife wondering about whether Ozzie's "dating someone from Minnesota"...and then comments about the White Sox not getting enough respect and "not feeling the support" in Chicago.

 

And then he is considering writing a book about this season and the miraculous comeback to contention behind his managerial style (this last line is my own hyperbolic comments, don't jump on Ozzie yet).

[Balta1701]

Worth noting that the Sox are now 4-5 since this rant got out?

[Balta1701]

Does anyone have the exact quotes from Ozzie this time?

 

At ESPN, Ozzie's complaining about all the media attention the Twins are getting for coming to town, there's a quote from his wife wondering about whether Ozzie's "dating someone from Minnesota"...and then comments about the White Sox not getting enough respect and "not feeling the support" in Chicago.

 

And then he is considering writing a book about this season and the miraculous comeback to contention behind his managerial style (this last line is my own hyperbolic comments, don't jump on Ozzie yet).

The outspoken skipper went off on another tangent before Tuesday's game against the Minnesota Twins, the first of three between the AL Central co-leaders, saying his team deserves more credit and doesn't "feel the support" in Chicago.

 

"Everybody asks, 'What do you think about the Minnesota Twins this year?' Well, that's the team that's supposed to be here today," he said. "That's all it is."

 

Guillen dismissed headlines hyping the arrival Twins and said when his wife mentioned Minnesota visiting, he responded by saying, "Good, you dating somebody from there?"

 

Guillen went on to say he feels "more proud of this ball club than any team I ever managed" and even vowed to write a book about this season.

Maybe you should get your team ready for the game rather than ranting to the Media, Oz. Your team lost a chunk of respect last night.

[LittleHurt05]

Worth noting that the Sox are now 4-5 since this rant got out?

 

because the rant is the reason the Sox forgot how to hit in Baltimore and it's also the reason that Freddy was throwing batting practice to the Twins last night.

[caulfield12]

Worth noting that the Sox are now 4-5 since this rant got out?

 

Historically, Ozzie rants have deflected attention away from individidual players or poor overall team play, but I guess this one just came at a time when the White Sox were due to cool off...that level of play wasn't going to continue forever, just like the good luck with Garcia holding up as well.

 

In some ways, you have to be proud of how they reversed 9 1/2 games in the standings to go up by 4 1/2 (after beating the Twins the Thursday after the ASB), but unfortunately we've given up 5 1/2 games in the last month ourselves.

 

Such a bi-polar season. 14 game shift, but the recent negative 5 1/2 game shift seems almost as demoraralizing as the positive run back into the lead a month ago was uplifting. Still, basing your happiness about the season based on the last three games is ridiculous, so we just have to hope the offense can get things figured out quickly. At home, you'd like to think they at least have a chance to win 2 in a row over the Twins, but it's hard to believe in that happening right now.

 

Still, if you were a Twins' fan one month ago and your team had just lost that first game and you were 4 1/2 games back, it was even more depressing, since they'd blown such a huge lead already and the season seemed to be getting away from them. Still, I'm not going to put a Danks/Perkins match-up in the "automatic win" column, we tried to do that with some of our Baltimore match-ups. Just want to see some signs of life, fight and competitiveness.

 

It's really amazing how much the 2003 season influences the feelings of Sox fans on the Twins. We got plastered by them in 2001-2004 and fell off in the second half of 2006, but we did manage to miraculously hold them off in 2008. It's interesting to conjecture how much gloomier and doomier things would feel around here had the Twins won in 2008, that would have given them 6 division championships out 8, and the Sox only 1 (especially considering the way they came back to track down the Tigers in 2006 and 2009).

 

2 versus 5 (with the World Series) or even 3 versus 5 (going back to 2000) doesn't seem QUITE so bad...even writing these words, it feels like a defeatist, Cubs-like mentality, the idea that "at least we don't have to watch our team get plastered in the first round of the playoffs year after year" when almost all of us feel the starting pitching on this team could easily get us another championship if not for the other egregious flaws in the blueprint.

Edited August 11, 2010 by caulfield12

[whitesoxfan101]

Why exactly do we deserve more respect? The White Sox are a team that going in to the season, a lot of people thought would contend, but ultimately fall just a little short due to the offense. To this point, I see no reason to think that prediction wasn't correct. If the team wants more respect, go out there and beat the Twins and win the division like you did in 2008. We've lost so many races to the Twins that it's natural we'll be disrespected.

 

As for how proud Ozzie is of the team, I understand that since they were 9 under and 9.5 back after basically the first week of June and didn't quit, but realistically this team never should have fallen into a hole that deep in the first place. And while I agree with Ozzie that the team probably deserves more support in Chicago, this team has done itself no favors in that regard because they have a lot of qualities that are pretty unlikable IMO.

Edited August 11, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[Milkman delivers]

because the rant is the reason the Sox forgot how to hit in Baltimore and it's also the reason that Freddy was throwing batting practice to the Twins last night.

 

Same way that Kotsay's clubhouse antics help the team to play better?