elrockinMT Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Alexei has shown some real brilaince at times. I think he can be one of the best, if not the best, but experience is what makes the difference. I have to believe that Omar Vizquel has helped him to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (rafacosta @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) This is supposed to be in green right?! No way... clearly he is the best ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) Alexei has shown some real brilaince at times. I think he can be one of the best, if not the best, but experience is what makes the difference. I have to believe that Omar Vizquel has helped him to develop Omar should be a coach for this team after this season. I think he would be an excellent manager as well. He is so calm, classy, and smart...complete opposite of Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Ozzie said in one of his pregame interviews that Omar in no way is taking credit for Alexei, it is all Joey Cora and the work they have put in together. he was emphatic about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) Ozzie said in one of his pregame interviews that Omar in no way is taking credit for Alexei, it is all Joey Cora and the work they have put in together. he was emphatic about it It really took a while for Joey to get though to Alexei didn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) It really took a while for Joey to get though to Alexei didn't it? you could say that, or you could say that it took a while for Alexei to get over his inexperience at the position regardless, he is performing brilliantly now. Whoever helped him get to this point needs a big kudos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) you could say that, or you could say that it took a while for Alexei to get over his inexperience at the position If you believe some reports, last season was the first time he'd ever been put as a SS for any extended length of time, so it only took him about 1 season to turn into a GG SS. That aint' bad in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:05 PM) If you believe some reports, last season was the first time he'd ever been put as a SS for any extended length of time, so it only took him about 1 season to turn into a GG SS. That aint' bad in my book. And he wasn't bad there, contrary to popular belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:07 PM) And he wasn't bad there, contrary to popular belief. He wasn't awful, had good range, but was annoyingly careless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) If you believe some reports, last season was the first time he'd ever been put as a SS for any extended length of time, so it only took him about 1 season to turn into a GG SS. That aint' bad in my book. Amen. Some guys aren't finished products the first day, the first season. He deserves credit. I was totally against moving him to ss. And I was wrong, just like most of this board including me was wrong when we wanted to blow this team up when the team was 9 back. Edited August 3, 2010 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcullotta Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 To all of those saying Hanley Ramirez, what does he do that much better then Alexei? Even with his awful start, Alexei has the higher batting average. Doubles are pretty much a wash at 18 to 17, HR's are close at 14 to 11, and I don't think RBI's are very far off (56 to 43) considering Hanley is batting third every day and Alexei has been hitting eighth. Defensively, it isn't even close at this point. Alexei is one of the best defensive SS's in the game while Hanley is one of the worst. So again, outside of being a much more well known player, why take Hanley over Alexei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (pcullotta @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) To all of those saying Hanley Ramirez, what does he do that much better then Alexei? Even with his awful start, Alexei has the higher batting average. Doubles are pretty much a wash at 18 to 17, HR's are close at 14 to 11, and I don't think RBI's are very far off (56 to 43) considering Hanley is batting third every day and Alexei has been hitting eighth. Defensively, it isn't even close at this point. Alexei is one of the best defensive SS's in the game while Hanley is one of the worst. So again, outside of being a much more well known player, why take Hanley over Alexei? track record and age. alexei's older, right? if i'm starting a team, i take hanley over alexei in a heartbeat. at the moment, alexei is more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) track record and age. alexei's older, right? Yes, Alexei's older, Hanley's currently 26, Alexei's listed at 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 08:14 PM) No, Alexei doesn't walk enough or take enough pitches so I can't even watch him bat even though he's hitting about .390 the past few weeks. He had a .690 OPS coming into July. Now he's at like .760. Man, I can't contain my excitement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (pcullotta @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) To all of those saying Hanley Ramirez, what does he do that much better then Alexei? Even with his awful start, Alexei has the higher batting average. Doubles are pretty much a wash at 18 to 17, HR's are close at 14 to 11, and I don't think RBI's are very far off (56 to 43) considering Hanley is batting third every day and Alexei has been hitting eighth. Defensively, it isn't even close at this point. Alexei is one of the best defensive SS's in the game while Hanley is one of the worst. So again, outside of being a much more well known player, why take Hanley over Alexei? By the way, after reading this post, I checked Hanley's stats. Mercy is he having a down year or what? 3 straight years of an OPS over .940 before this one as a 23-25 year old, then this year his OPS is at .807. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (pcullotta @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) To all of those saying Hanley Ramirez, what does he do that much better then Alexei? Even with his awful start, Alexei has the higher batting average. Doubles are pretty much a wash at 18 to 17, HR's are close at 14 to 11, and I don't think RBI's are very far off (56 to 43) considering Hanley is batting third every day and Alexei has been hitting eighth. Defensively, it isn't even close at this point. Alexei is one of the best defensive SS's in the game while Hanley is one of the worst. So again, outside of being a much more well known player, why take Hanley over Alexei? What does he do better than Alexei? Other then just about every aspect of offense? Not much. Look, Alexei has been fabulous the last two months and change. But that's it. He ain't close to Hanley offensively (2010 has been an outlier for Hanley). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Hanley Ramirez has the 10th highest wOBA of any hitter in the game over the past 3 seasons and that's including his ~.350 from this year. There are 8 first baseman ahead of him, a LF and a 3B. The next closest SS is 29th (Tulo). Alexei is ranked 107 out of 131 (tied with JJ Hardy). Hanley's also 9th in batting average and 8th in SB over that same time. He's having the worst year of his career after being a top 5 offensive player over the 3 previous seasons, perfect time to compare Alexei to Hanley. Between '07-'09 only Pujols, A-Rod, Holliday and Chipper had a higher wOBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) Hanley Ramirez has the 10th highest wOBA of any hitter in the game over the past 3 seasons and that's including his ~.350 from this year. There are 8 first baseman ahead of him, a LF and a 3B. The next closest SS is 29th (Tulo). Alexei is ranked 107 out of 131 (tied with JJ Hardy). Hanley's also 9th in batting average and 8th in SB over that same time. He's having the worst year of his career after being a top 5 offensive player over the 3 previous seasons, perfect time to compare Alexei to Hanley. Between '07-'09 only Pujols, A-Rod, Holliday and Chipper had a higher wOBA. There was a reason why there were threads about what player you would start a franchise with for years on soxtalk. Obviously Pujols finished first, but guys like Hanley and Miggy were right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) Hanley Ramirez has the 10th highest wOBA of any hitter in the game over the past 3 seasons and that's including his ~.350 from this year. There are 8 first baseman ahead of him, a LF and a 3B. The next closest SS is 29th (Tulo). Alexei is ranked 107 out of 131 (tied with JJ Hardy). Hanley's also 9th in batting average and 8th in SB over that same time. He's having the worst year of his career after being a top 5 offensive player over the 3 previous seasons, perfect time to compare Alexei to Hanley. Between '07-'09 only Pujols, A-Rod, Holliday and Chipper had a higher wOBA. I didn't even bother with numbers. I knew either you or qwerty would take care of that. I'm just too lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) I'm pretty happy with the improvements Alexei has made defensively, and the way he has played offensively since May. I'll leave it at that. Oh, and he makes $1.25 million dollars. Edited August 3, 2010 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) I'm pretty happy with the improvements Alexei has made defensively, and the way he has played offensively since May. I'll leave it at that. Oh, and he makes $1.25 million dollars. Well, he would win the poll for 'Who is worth every penny' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Obviously Alexei is not the best all around SS in baseball. The better question would have been who is having the best all around season, because even with his horrendous April/May there could at least be an argument for him made there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I'm just glad to see someone with so much talent like Alexei finally putting it all together. The MLB is populated with guys who didn't, and it's been fun to watch Alexei develop and become a consistently good ballplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I checked the gamelogs on Baseball Reference for Lexi, and it was actually around the middle of May this season when he started to hit. His #'s since May 15th: .333BA .364OBP .494SLG .858OPS, pretty darn sweet with the D we're getting from him. And really, those are excellent 2 hole numbers. His 2009 #'s from May 22 onward: .296BA .355OBP .424SLG .779OPS His 2008 #'s from May26 onward: .305BA .332OBP .505SLG .837 OPS He's starting to get hot slightly earlier each season. I predict he'll get it going around May 8th next year. I'd like to see how game time temp correlates, if any, but I don't quite have the time. He (and Gavin too) should be hypnotized next March into thinking it's June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) Dude... Jeter.... clearly. Apparently if you look at his fielding metrics, he's one of the WORST in MLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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