Carlos Beltran

[chetkincaid]

Well not necessarily... he's owed 5.5 mil this year and 18.5 (wow) mil next year, and the Mets wanna get rid of him. Maybe they'll take Linebrink and/or Teahen back in a trade or just eat a lot of next years salary owed to him.

 

The guy was phenomenal a few years ago. And he is a switch hitter. Maybe he needs a change of scenery and an off season to get back to 100% healthy? Maybe he'll have something to prove?

 

An outfield with Pierre in left, Rios in center and a rejuvinated Beltran in right would be outstanding... DH Quentin and there you go.

[Balta1701]

I dunno how desperate the Mets are to unload him...they're not exactly poor for cash right now, and I have zero urge to give up legit talent on a guy like him with that contract.

 

He'd clearly get through waivers unclaimed, so a move for him could be possible. He's been terrible since coming back this year, so if we're playing for this year, that isn't going to get me going much. He also has a full NTC, which always makes things more difficult. The NYT reported that the Mets would be loathe to send along much in salary to get rid of him; doesn't mean they wouldn't take back a bad contract or two, but still that's a ton of money he's owed for next year.

[Buehrlesque]

Well not necessarily... he's owed 5.5 mil this year and 18.5 (wow) mil next year, and the Mets wanna get rid of him. Maybe they'll take Linebrink and/or Teahen back in a trade or just eat a lot of next years salary owed to him.

 

The guy was phenomenal a few years ago. And he is a switch hitter. Maybe he needs a change of scenery and an off season to get back to 100% healthy? Maybe he'll have something to prove?

 

An outfield with Pierre in left, Rios in center and a rejuvinated Beltran in right would be outstanding... DH Quentin and there you go.

I've been thinking about this very topic for a week or so now, and with each passing day it seems like the perfect storm is brewing. I think it's a good fit, and I'm sure KW, who leaves no stone unturned, is looking into it. I hope it has legs!

 

[nitetrain8601]

I've been thinking about this very topic for a week or so now, and with each passing day it seems like the perfect storm is brewing. I think it's a good fit, and I'm sure KW, who leaves no stone unturned, is looking into it. I hope it has legs!

 

It is now clear that the Mets would be open to trading Beltran this winter, when he will be going into the final season of his seven-year, $119 million deal and will be owed $18.5 million. Even more, the Mets are ready to let Beltran go right now, for nothing in return, if a team claims him off waivers.

 

However, given Beltran’s current struggles and the money still owed him, a waiver claim is extremely unlikely to happen.

 

The Mets’ willingness to look at an immediate future without Beltran is a reflection of Pagan’s emergence and Beltran’s diminishing returns. Pagan, at 29, is four years younger than Beltran. He continues to defer to him, saying the other day that “Carlos is the center fielder, and he always will be.”

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/sports/b...&ref=sports

 

I'd claim him. Honestly, he can be just what the doctor ordered. He's not really old either. And as he gets healthier, his defense is GG caliber as well.

Edited August 11, 2010 by nitetrain8601

[Quin]

I'd be all over a Carlos Beltran acquisition.

 

And in Sept. when Carlos Torres gets called up, we match the Cubs for the lead league in Carlos's

[Quin]

Beltran cleared

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/carl...rs-waivers.html

[Jerksticks]

So is it better that he cleared waivers for us to go after him? Wouldn't we be on the hook for 50k if we made a claim and didn't reach a deal, and now we can negotiate for free? Or is all this wrong

[Quin]

So is it better that he cleared waivers for us to go after him? Wouldn't we be on the hook for 50k if we made a claim and didn't reach a deal, and now we can negotiate for free? Or is all this wrong

 

The fact that he cleared waivers means we can trade some prospect not on the 40 man roster for him to see if the Mets would kick in some money.

 

Edit: When on the other hand if he had been claimed by us on waivers, the Mets could have just made us assume the whole contract.

Edited August 11, 2010 by Quinarvy

[chetkincaid]

I wonder if he's fully recovered from his injuries and he just has to get his timing and confidence back? Can you imagine if we claimed him and he did get back to his 2006 - 2008 form next year? Wow.

 

[Quin]

I wonder if he's fully recovered from his injuries and he just has to get his timing and confidence back? Can you imagine if we claimed him and he did get back to his 2006 - 2008 form next year? Wow.

 

I would call up Mike Rizzo and laugh.

[Sox72]

I wonder if he's fully recovered from his injuries and he just has to get his timing and confidence back? Can you imagine if we claimed him and he did get back to his 2006 - 2008 form next year? Wow.

 

That would be amazing......but he'll be 34 next year. I just can't see it happening. Definitely not in the field, coming off of knee surgery.

[chetkincaid]

That would be amazing......but he'll be 34 next year. I just can't see it happening. Definitely not in the field, coming off of knee surgery.

 

 

Yeah I didn't think he was that old. I thought he was around Rio's age. He's 4 years older.

[SoxnGiants]

If they throw in some cash and take Linebrink... absolutely worth a gamble. Aside from one down year in 2005 and the last couple with injuriies, he's be extremely productive.

[BigSqwert]

I'm sick of bringing in past their prime, injury riddled players to this ball club.

[Balta1701]

I'm sick of bringing in past their prime, injury riddled players to this ball club.

Like Jermaine Dye and Freddy Garcia.

[BigSqwert]

Like Jermaine Dye and Freddy Garcia.

Jermaine Dye wasn't past his prime when we acquired him.

 

And more like Griffey, Andruw, Erstad, Kotsay, etc.

Edited August 11, 2010 by BigSqwert

[Balta1701]

Jermaine Dye wasn't past his prime when we acquired him.

He was 31.

[BigSqwert]

He was 31.

Players can still be very productive until 32 or 33 for the most part.

[Balta1701]

Players can still be very productive until 32 or 33 for the most part.

Productive, sure. You can be productive long after that if you're healthy. Your exact phrase was "Past their prime". I believe it's almost uniformly agreed that most players hit their "Prime years" somewhere between age 26-31. Almost by definition, anyone you bring in after age 30 is past their prime and could be criticized under that standard if they don't perform.

[BigSqwert]

Productive, sure. You can be productive long after that if you're healthy. Your exact phrase was "Past their prime". I believe it's almost uniformly agreed that most players hit their "Prime years" somewhere between age 26-31. Almost by definition, anyone you bring in after age 30 is past their prime and could be criticized under that standard if they don't perform.

Whatever. I think most people got the gist of where I was going with a potential Beltran acquisition.

[witesoxfan]

I understand what you're saying Sqwert, but Dye was pretty much the perfect example of the Sox picking up a player who was left for dead and resurrecting his career. Dye put up a .231/.305/.397/.702 line in the second half of 2004, and a .200/.246/.385/.631 line in his first 36 games of the 2005 season too. There were quite a few people who thought Dye was done and washed up, and he turned out to be one of the best free agent signings in White Sox history. I think Jermaine Dye works perfectly as an example of a guy people thought was done and the Sox saw something in him.

 

I'm not on board for acquiring Carlos Beltran - mainly because of his inflated salary and absolutely no idea what to expect - but acquiring him isn't the worst idea in the world and it tends to fit Williams' MO of finding players other teams thought were done and over with and getting something out of them. If the Mets were willing to take Linebrink while also eating some salary (and taking back only a couple of mediocre prospects too), then I could most definitely see a move occurring.

[chw42]

If the Mets take down his contract to about $12 million for next year, I wouldn't be against such a move.

 

So basically, trade Linebrink for Beltran...lol.

Edited August 11, 2010 by chw42

[elrockinMT]

Let's see if Jermaine Dye is available for September

[hogan873]

Let's see if Jermaine Dye is available for September

He's more than available, but as far as I know he doesn't want to just DH. You'd think by now he would have changed his mind?

[chw42]

He's more than available, but as far as I know he doesn't want to just DH. You'd think by now he would have changed his mind?

 

Dye hasn't played baseball in almost a year.

 

I doubt he'll have an impact if we sign him now.