sox-r-us Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 So he was after a pitcher that did not get moved ultimately....I wonder who. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Livan Hernandez maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Honestly? I believe it was a starter from Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Honestly? I believe it was a starter from Montreal. me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 It doesn't matter, he didn't get the pitcher. I'm satisfied with the moves he made. The trades improved our team, and we don't need to give up too many prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Honestly? I believe it was a starter from Montreal. Armas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Armas? Or Vazquez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 man i really can't imagine who kw would have to give to get vasquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Or Vazquez? OR Livan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 Some day I would like to find out who he was after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 OR Livan then f***ed that trade if it was for that slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Or Vazquez? Montreal was not going to trade Vasquez. They were pretty strong about that. Even if we got Vasquez we'd have to give up top notch prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Montreal was not going to trade Vasquez. They were pretty strong about that. Even if we got Vasquez we'd have to give up top notch prospects. at least. who was the yank were suppose to give up to get vlad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 I cannot imagine Kenny actually going back to make a trade with Minaya from the Expos given how badly he raped him in the Colon trade. Liefer sucked. El Duque has been average and MIA and Biddle has been average too. Osuna has done nothing with the spankees either. Colon will be huge for us down the stretch (already he has helped keep the bullpen fresh with his #innings/game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I cannot imagine Kenny actually going back to make a trade with Minaya from the Expos given how badly he raped him in the Colon trade. Liefer sucked. El Duque has been average and MIA and Biddle has been average too. Osuna has done nothing with the spankees either. Colon will be huge for us down the stretch (already he has helped keep the bullpen fresh with his #innings/game) i wonder if bud came in and killed the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I cannot imagine Kenny actually going back to make a trade with Minaya from the Expos given how badly he raped him in the Colon trade. Liefer sucked. El Duque has been average and MIA and Biddle has been average too. Osuna has done nothing with the spankees either. Colon will be huge for us down the stretch (already he has helped keep the bullpen fresh with his #innings/game) Osuna's ERA is 2.56 for the Yankees as a set-up man, and his 8.81 K/9 is actually better than Rivera's. His WHIP is 1.42 cause he walks too many people, but I'd still take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'm guessing it was Vazquez. I think we'll see Williams try to land this pitcher via waivers if he gets the chance or wait until the offseason and try again. I got a hunch Williams plans to add payroll next year and I think everyone knows what I'm hinting at by bringing this up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Armas? Armas may be out for the season. Dam if it was vazquez.... I guess the trade that would blow our socks off never came... Right Hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'm guessing it was Vazquez. I think we'll see Williams try to land this pitcher via waivers if he gets the chance or wait until the offseason and try again. I got a hunch Williams plans to add payroll next year and I think everyone knows what I'm hinting at by bringing this up who white? suppan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'm guessing it was Vazquez. I think we'll see Williams try to land this pitcher via waivers if he gets the chance or wait until the offseason and try again. I got a hunch Williams plans to add payroll next year and I think everyone knows what I'm hinting at by bringing this up Vazquez will be claimed on waivers. For those who have said el duque has been average... El duque has not threown a ball yet. People, El duque is over 40. He's lied about his age. I know a player who played onthe Pr National team and started playing when he was 20 and el duque was older and the person is 38 right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'm guessing it was Vazquez. I think we'll see Williams try to land this pitcher via waivers if he gets the chance or wait until the offseason and try again. I got a hunch Williams plans to add payroll next year and I think everyone knows what I'm hinting at by bringing this up Vazquez will be claimed on waivers. For those who have said el duque has been average... El duque has not threown a ball yet. People, El duque is over 40. He's lied about his age. I know a player who played onthe Pr National team and started playing when he was 20 and el duque was older and the person is 38 right now I don't disagree with you. See, I don't think its Livan because Kenny says the player would be claimed if placed on waivers and we all know that Livan would go right through waivers. That tells me it was Garcia (Never heard Kenny was too hot after him, but he could of been; Problem is the Mariners would of wanted a major league hitter in return and I don't see Williams moving one of our offensive starters). Then there was Escobar and I think that was a possibility and the only other one was Vazquez. I'd bet with pretty good confidence that it was either Escobar or Javier and I think we'll see him go after them again this offseason and if either get through waivers we'll see him try and maybe just nab him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I don't want Livan. He nad colon could go into wresting/ they weight a combined 500 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I cannot imagine Kenny actually going back to make a trade with Minaya from the Expos given how badly he raped him in the Colon trade. Liefer sucked. El Duque has been average and MIA and Biddle has been average too. Osuna has done nothing with the spankees either. Colon will be huge for us down the stretch (already he has helped keep the bullpen fresh with his #innings/game) i wonder if bud came in and killed the deal. if bud wasnt gonna come in and kill trades like the reds were making to just get cash, then he wouldnt have touched a vasquez deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I cannot imagine Kenny actually going back to make a trade with Minaya from the Expos given how badly he raped him in the Colon trade. Liefer sucked. El Duque has been average and MIA and Biddle has been average too. Osuna has done nothing with the spankees either. Colon will be huge for us down the stretch (already he has helped keep the bullpen fresh with his #innings/game) i wonder if bud came in and killed the deal. if bud wasnt gonna come in and kill trades like the reds were making to just get cash, then he wouldnt have touched a vasquez deal He supposdly killed a Vlad Trade to the Spanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Thank goodness he killed a Vlad dael to the Yanks. I think the Expos will try and resign Vlady but its going to be hard to do it without an ownership group in place. Expos will be easier to sell with a superstar like Vlad on board. In regards to the Boone trade, it doesn't really look all that bad. Think if your the Reds, you get a ton of money, a guy that can come in and start immediately and another prospect. Its a better long term solution then Freddy Garcia who they wouldn't resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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