Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Fathom, to comment on that HR tracker I posted...note how Howard has hit 425-450 foot HR the opposite way and to CF regularly, while all of Cabrera's opposite field HR are under 400 and he's got nothing to CF (Probably because of the 410 CF at Comerica). Howard has vastly more opposite field power than Cabrera right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Do you think Tiger fans go thru the same thing when they play the Sox as we do when the Sox play the Twins. Like no lead is save enough, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:42 PM) Griffey in and around 98, Thomas in 92- 94, Mauer last year, Pujols for the last decade, and the juicers immediately come to mind. Edit: and the more I think of juicers, the more I come up with. Sheffield had some dominant years. Canseco. Sosa on the stuff. you and I have talked though about not considering the players from the steroids era. Cause if that was true, then obviously Bonds was the best player I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Damnit Putz stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:46 PM) Fathom, to comment on that HR tracker I posted...note how Howard has hit 425-450 foot HR the opposite way and to CF regularly, while all of Cabrera's opposite field HR are under 400 and he's got nothing to CF (Probably because of the 410 CF at Comerica). Howard has vastly more opposite field power than Cabrera right now. That graph was awesome, but I could have been sure that they talked in ESPN Magazine about Cabrera hitting mammoth homers at Comerica the opposite way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I think that's 3 appearances in a row Putz has allowed a lead off hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:44 PM) Isn't Jenks still out with back spasms? Thornton's closing if Putz is coming in now. Ahh right. That would make me feel better. Still going to be a nervy couple innings without an insurance run or 2 in the 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) you and I have talked though about not considering the players from the steroids era. Cause if that was true, then obviously Bonds was the best player I've ever seen. Yeah...the one thing about the steroid era though is that it's possible that because guys who would have been better hitters than Cabrera did juice it, they get excluded by that filter. I don't believe you can ever truly think he was clean...but it's entirely possible that if there were never any steroids, we might still look back and think that guys like Bonds or Sheffield or ARod were at a level beyond where Cabrera is now...but all of them juiced so you can never tell where they'd have been without the assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Generous strike 3! BTW, Kotsay is now 0-21 against LHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I hope Putz isn't the new Linebrink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) That graph was awesome, but I could have been sure that they talked in ESPN Magazine about Cabrera hitting mammoth homers at Comerica the opposite way. You're making your case based on ESPN the Magazine articles? I think that means I win. Is that a corrollary to Godwin's law...the probability of ESPN commentary being used in a sports argument goes to 1 with increasing time and the first one to use it loses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:39 PM) power/average combo Then Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:49 PM) Generous strike 3! BTW, Kotsay is now 0-21 against LHP. Hit safely in 7 games before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:50 PM) Hit safely in 7 games before that. Doesn't mean he should ever be allowed to face LHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:49 PM) You're making your case based on ESPN the Magazine articles? I think that means I win. Is that a corrollary to Godwin's law...the probability of ESPN commentary being used in a sports argument goes to 1 with increasing time and the first one to use it loses? That should be a sticky. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Sorry, dozed off between Putz pitches. What's happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) Doesn't mean he should ever be allowed to face LHP Sometimes it's unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 04:52 PM) Sorry, dozed off between Putz pitches. What's happened? Nothing yet. Putz not dominating, struggling with control some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Interesting that Toronto has 4 at Minnesota. That ball park will make it difficult for their bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Close play at 2b. Usually our guy gets called out when it's that close. I want to see the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) Nothing yet. Putz not dominating, struggling with control some. But his stuff is good. I'm slightly encouraged (waiting for pending jinx). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) Sorry, dozed off between Putz pitches. What's happened? That could be part of his problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:52 PM) Close play at 2b. Usually our guy gets called out when it's that close. I want to see the replay. I thought the tag was put on before his other leg hit the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Stoney, if Alexei stays back for the tag, it makes picking that short hop much harder. I am fine with Alexei coming up to pick it, rather than staying back and hoping to snag the short-hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 09:54 PM) Stoney, if Alexei stays back for the tag, it makes picking that short hop much harder. I am fine with Alexei coming up to pick it, rather than staying back and hoping to snag the short-hop. Totally agree, it was a good play by Alexei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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