LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 agree and what makes me laugh is the forbes article and where tex is ranked and the loss they are taking. i love the idea that tex had to trade players who has a heavy contract. i love the fact that arod may have to rot in tex who may not win or go out and try to get players to win. ahhhhh sweet revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 speaking of the devil http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=1587849 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 LDF and Jas, I have enjoyed reading your intelligent and insightful comments on JR - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 LDF and Jas, I have enjoyed reading your intelligent and insightful comments on JR - thanks! ahhh schucks you make me blush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 cant go to the kansas series.... but will be there for the oakland sat and sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I for one will be there. For two and three there will be Asshat and sideshowapu. Yes the one and only sideshowapu going to his 2nd sox game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I've never had a problem with JR being "cheap", though at times of frustration I'm sure I have lashed out at him for not spending more. He does run this club with an eye toward fiscal responsibility, and rightly so. My only beef with JR is the way good quality ex-players have been disrespected as they were on there way out of town. And I'm sorry, but I'll always hold the Carlton Fisk fiasco against him. That was totally classless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 ahhh schucks you make me blush. really -- the tiresome rip into JR posts are so tedious and rational, fair commentary and dialogue like you and Jas are doing, is most appreciated thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I've never had a problem with JR being "cheap", though at times of frustration I'm sure I have lashed out at him for not spending more. He does run this club with an eye toward fiscal responsibility, and rightly so. My only beef with JR is the way good quality ex-players have been disrespected as they were on there way out of town. And I'm sorry, but I'll always hold the Carlton Fisk fiasco against him. That was totally classless. the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 really -- the tiresome rip into JR posts are so tedious and rational, fair commentary and dialogue like you and Jas are doing, is most appreciated thank you thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. i remember something about that, maybe somebody could tell this better than i. if i remember and i am giving the opportunity to be wrong, but i think there was a vote and the players didn't want them there. with fisk was the way he was forced to retire and they couldn't allow pall in after they did that to fisk, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. i remember something about that, maybe somebody could tell this better than i. if i remember and i am giving the opportunity to be wrong, but i think there was a vote and the players didn't want them there. with fisk was the way he was forced to retire and they couldn't allow pall in after they did that to fisk, I'd certainly be interested in having that story confirmed, if it is correct. That's the first I've heard about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. i remember something about that, maybe somebody could tell this better than i. if i remember and i am giving the opportunity to be wrong, but i think there was a vote and the players didn't want them there. with fisk was the way he was forced to retire and they couldn't allow pall in after they did that to fisk, I'd certainly be interested in having that story confirmed, if it is correct. That's the first I've heard about that. you know what, i remember that, but as i said, i may be wrong on this. the situation of forcing fisk to accept retirement was a distraction and was ugly. i know that the sox took a hit on the pr side, but it was a deed that needed to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. i remember something about that, maybe somebody could tell this better than i. if i remember and i am giving the opportunity to be wrong, but i think there was a vote and the players didn't want them there. with fisk was the way he was forced to retire and they couldn't allow pall in after they did that to fisk, I'd certainly be interested in having that story confirmed, if it is correct. That's the first I've heard about that. you know what, i remember that, but as i said, i may be wrong on this. the situation of forcing fisk to accept retirement was a distraction and was ugly. i know that the sox took a hit on the pr side, but it was a deed that needed to be done. Even that point is debatable, though at the time it occured I felt the same as you. However, I have since heard about Fisk expressing the fact the Lamont would not give him any playing time and therefore Fisk could not get things going. Could just be sour grapes on Carlton's part, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 it was those comments made in the press that got the players to vote no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I for one will be there. For two and three there will be Asshat and sideshowapu. Yes the one and only sideshowapu going to his 2nd sox game. And if that isn't motivation to go, I don't know what is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I will be there Monday and Tuesday. This team needs to be supported, they have earned that. They also seem to get up for big games in front of big crowds ( scubs and Twinkies series). Time to pack the cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosk8 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I will be there Monday and Tuesday. This team needs to be supported, they have earned that. They also seem to get up for big games in front of big crowds ( scubs and Twinkies series). Time to pack the cell. 40,000+ in attendance, 20,000 paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I'll be there monday and tuesday for sure, and saturday's tailgate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 the fisk problem was bad and i am sorry for fisk, but it needed to be done. i am saying this in ref to him being forced to retire. his fault is his total trust in his employees, his gm. both on the bulls and baseball. I was referring to the incident where Fisk and Donn Pall were not allowed into the clubhouse during the playoffs. They were both part of the team that year. i remember something about that, maybe somebody could tell this better than i. if i remember and i am giving the opportunity to be wrong, but i think there was a vote and the players didn't want them there. with fisk was the way he was forced to retire and they couldn't allow pall in after they did that to fisk, I'd certainly be interested in having that story confirmed, if it is correct. That's the first I've heard about that. you know what, i remember that, but as i said, i may be wrong on this. the situation of forcing fisk to accept retirement was a distraction and was ugly. i know that the sox took a hit on the pr side, but it was a deed that needed to be done. Even that point is debatable, though at the time it occured I felt the same as you. However, I have since heard about Fisk expressing the fact the Lamont would not give him any playing time and therefore Fisk could not get things going. Could just be sour grapes on Carlton's part, but who knows. I loved Fisk as a player, but he was done. If he had anything left someone would have picked him up, and he really could have stuck it to JR, Lamont and everybody else who thought he couldn't play anymore. How old was he, 45? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Well, I can't go to Monday's game. But, I will be at Tuesday's. Check your PM when you get a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Check your PM when you get a chance Got it! And I PM'd you back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Got it! And I PM'd you back. Back atcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I will be there Monday and Tuesday. This team needs to be supported, they have earned that. They also seem to get up for big games in front of big crowds ( scubs and Twinkies series). Time to pack the cell. I'll see you there Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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