southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2012 -> 12:56 PM) Andy Pettitte is on the stand in Clemens's re-trial the last couple days. He's the prosecution's star witness because he can state that Clemens told him he was juicing. Clemens's defense is claiming that pettitte misremembered the conversation. Today, Pettitte admitted under oath that it's possible he misremembered or misheard the statement. This might well destroy the prosecution's case a 2nd time. Way to show that testicular fortitude Andy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Way to show that testicular fortitude Andy! To be fair, those body parts were probably effected by the steroids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) To be fair, those body parts were probably effected by the steroids... He is a scumbag. Hopefully the HOF voters hold this against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) He is a scumbag. Hopefully the HOF voters hold this against him. He is keeping his good friend from going to jail over something dumb and a giant waste of money.... I think anyone that wouldn't fudge the truth to help a friend out in a case like this is the true scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) He is keeping his good friend from going to jail over something dumb and a giant waste of money.... I think anyone that wouldn't fudge the truth to help a friend out in a case like this is the true scumbag. I can't imagine the government would have brought this "giant waste of money" case I'd try had Pettitr telling them what he just said in court. But hey, he's wasting the taxpayers money so it's ok right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ May 2, 2012 -> 08:14 PM) He is keeping his good friend from going to jail over something dumb and a giant waste of money.... I think anyone that wouldn't fudge the truth to help a friend out in a case like this is the true scumbag. He either lied to the grand jury, or he lied to the court. Either way he is a scumbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) Andy Pettitte is on the stand in Clemens's re-trial the last couple days. He's the prosecution's star witness because he can state that Clemens told him he was juicing. Clemens's defense is claiming that pettitte misremembered the conversation. Today, Pettitte admitted under oath that it's possible he misremembered or misheard the statement. This might well destroy the prosecution's case a 2nd time. To be "under oath" means so little that I'm not sure why they even bother mentioning it. It carries about as much weight as pinky swearing does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) I can't imagine the government would have brought this "giant waste of money" case I'd try had Pettitr telling them what he just said in court. But hey, he's wasting the taxpayers money so it's ok right? Well, I'm assuming they did their homework and knew how much it was troubling Pettite testifying against Clemens and probably shouldn't be relied as the the key witness..... none of it's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 F*ck Andy Pettitte. I cannot wait for him to get lit up in the coming weeks on national television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ May 2, 2012 -> 11:11 PM) To be "under oath" means so little that I'm not sure why they even bother mentioning it. It carries about as much weight as pinky swearing does. Because you can charge a person with perjury if they lie under oath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2012 -> 08:44 AM) Because you can charge a person with perjury if they lie under oath? I'd love to know how often that actually happens, and what percentage of those actually result in a conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2012 -> 08:49 AM) I'd love to know how often that actually happens, and what percentage of those actually result in a conviction. I think Clemens has some good defense behind him. Just throw some doubt in there. Pettite might have misunderstood/misremember/etc. Pettite went along with it. Basically saying that you aren't 100 percent sure. I think Clemens will not be indicted. and you cannot say that Pettite committed perjury under oath. Great plan. I foresee both of them pitching for the yanks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Jury has reached a verdict. Not sure when the announcement is expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) Jury has reached a verdict. Not sure when the announcement is expected. Not guilty on all charges. The government can't get that money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Pettite admitted he did HGH, got away with it, then got Clemens off scott free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 LOL. Let's all remember that this in no way exonerates Clemens from being a juice head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) LOL. Let's all remember that this in no way exonerates Clemens from being a juice head. Like I said. Clemens can now pitch for the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sucks, but not unexpected. Govt. rarely wins high profile cases against high-priced private attorneys. He's still guilty as sin, and most in the BWAA will see it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 05:24 PM) Sucks, but not unexpected. Govt. rarely wins high profile cases against high-priced private attorneys. He's still guilty as sin, and most in the BWAA will see it that way. doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Roger has time again to sleep with underage girls again.............pompous jerk........Karma RC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) lmao. I'm so sad that I somehow overlooked this when it was originally posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) doubtful Clemens is in no way a lock for the HOF due to the possible roiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 07:25 PM) Clemens is in no way a lock for the HOF due to the possible roiding It certainly stains his reputation, but I think he will get in. Maybe not first ballot, but he will get in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) It certainly stains his reputation, but I think he will get in. Maybe not first ballot, but he will get in The sad thing is, he deserved it before he ever juiced. Now he could have screwed that up, ala Bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) It certainly stains his reputation, but I think he will get in. Maybe not first ballot, but he will get in Well if he gets in then Bonds better get in too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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